Veterans Day

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Veterans Day is a time for us to pay our respects to those who have served. For one day, we stand united in respect for you, our veterans.
This holiday started as a day to reflect upon the heroism of those who died in our country's service and was originally called Armistice Day. It fell on Nov. 11 because that is the anniversary of the signing of the Armistice that ended World War I. However, in 1954, the holiday was changed to "Veterans Day" in order to account for all veterans in all wars.
We celebrate and honor America's veterans for their patriotism, love of country and willingness to serve and sacrifice for the common good.

To all who served, a heartfelt "THANK YOU". Regardless of the branch you served in, regardless of the duties you performed, we are all brothers in arms.
 
Ronald Reagan's Veteran's Day speech at Arlington, Nov 11th, 1985

"Secretary Weinberger, Harry Walters, Robert Medairos, reverend clergy, ladies and gentlemen, a few moments ago I placed a wreath at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier, and as I stepped back and stood during the moment of silence that followed, I said a small prayer. And it occurred to me that each of my predecessors has had a similar moment, and I wondered if our prayers weren't very much the same, if not identical.


We celebrate Veterans Day on the anniversary of the armistice that ended World War I, the armistice that began on the 11th hour of the 11th day of the 11th month. And I wonder, in fact, if all Americans' prayers aren't the same as those I mentioned a moment ago. The timing of this holiday is quite deliberate in terms of historical fact but somehow it always seems quite fitting to me that this day comes deep in autumn when the colors are muted and the days seem to invite contemplation.


We are gathered at the National Cemetery, which provides a final resting place for the heroes who have defended our country since the Civil War. This amphitheater, this place for speeches, is more central to this cemetery than it first might seem apparent, for all we can ever do for our heroes is remember them and remember what they did -- and memories are transmitted through words.


Sometime back I received in the name of our country the bodies of four marines who had died while on active duty. I said then that there is a special sadness that accompanies the death of a serviceman, for we're never quite good enough to them-not really; we can't be, because what they gave us is beyond our powers to repay. And so, when a serviceman dies, it's a tear in the fabric, a break in the whole, and all we can do is remember.


It is, in a way, an odd thing to honor those who died in defense of our country, in defense of us, in wars far away. The imagination plays a trick. We see these soldiers in our mind as old and wise. We see them as something like the Founding Fathers, grave and gray haired. But most of them were boys when they died, and they gave up two lives -- the one they were living and the one they would have lived. When they died, they gave up their chance to be husbands and fathers and grandfathers. They gave up their chance to be revered old men. They gave up everything for our country, for us. And all we can do is remember.


There's always someone who is remembering for us. No matter what time of year it is or what time of day, there are always people who come to this cemetery, leave a flag or a flower or a little rock on a headstone. And they stop and bow their heads and communicate what they wished to communicate. They say, "Hello, Johnny," or "Hello, Bob. We still think of you. You're still with us. We never got over you, and we pray for you still, and we'll see you again. We'll all meet again." In a way, they represent us, these relatives and friends, and they speak for us as they walk among the headstones and remember. It's not so hard to summon memory, but it's hard to recapture meaning.


And the living have a responsibility to remember the conditions that led to the wars in which our heroes died. Perhaps we can start by remembering this: that all of those who died for us and our country were, in one way or another, victims of a peace process that failed; victims of a decision to forget certain things; to forget, for instance, that the surest way to keep a peace going is to stay strong. Weakness, after all, is a temptation -- it tempts the pugnacious to assert themselves -- but strength is a declaration that cannot be misunderstood. Strength is a condition that declares actions have consequences. Strength is a prudent warning to the belligerent that aggression need not go unanswered.


Peace fails when we forget what we stand for. It fails when we forget that our Republic is based on firm principles, principles that have real meaning, that with them, we are the last, best hope of man on Earth; without them, we're little more than the crust of a continent. Peace also fails when we forget to bring to the bargaining table God’s first intellectual gift to man: common sense. Common sense gives us a realistic knowledge of human beings and how they think, how they live in the world, what motivates them. Common sense tells us that man has magic in him, but also clay. Common sense can tell the difference between right and wrong. Common sense forgives error, but it always recognizes it to be error first.


We endanger the peace and confuse all issues when we obscure the truth; when we refuse to name an act for what it is; when we refuse to see the obvious and seek safety in Almighty. Peace is only maintained and won by those who have clear eyes and brave minds. Peace is imperiled when we forget to try for agreements and settlements and treaties; when we forget to hold out our hands and strive; when we forget that God gave us talents to use in securing the ends He desires. Peace fails when we forget that agreements, once made, cannot be broken without a price.


Each new day carries within it the potential for breakthroughs, for progress. Each new day bursts with possibilities. And so, hope is realistic and despair a pointless little sin. And peace fails when we forget to pray to the source of all peace and life and happiness. I think sometimes of General Matthew Ridgeway, who, the night before D-day, tossed sleepless on his cot and talked to the Lord and listened for the promise that God made to Joshua: “I will not fail thee, nor forsake thee.”


We're surrounded today by the dead of our wars. We owe them a debt we can never repay. All we can do is remember them and what they did and why they had to be brave for us. All we can do is try to see that other young men never have to join them. Today, as never before, we must pledge to remember the things that will continue the peace. Today, as never before, we must pray for God's help in broadening and deepening the peace we enjoy. Let us pray for freedom and justice and a more stable world. And let us make a compact today with the dead, a promise in the words for which General Ridgeway listened, “I will not fail thee, nor forsake thee.”


In memory of those who gave the last full measure of devotion, may our efforts to achieve lasting peace gain strength. And through whatever coincidence or accident of timing, I tell you that a week from now when I am some thousands of miles away, believe me, the memory and the importance of this day will be in the forefront of my mind and in my heart.


Thank you. God bless you all, and God bless America."
 
Thank you to all who have served.

Many of us had the opportunity to choose. My biggest respects go to those who got drafted (didn't have the choice, but did the best they could, anyway, in spite of trying to fight while politicians kept their hands tied behind their backs.) Yeah.....I'm talking about the Vietnam Vets that our country threw under the bus. It's a bitter part of my world. I got praised for doing nothing. They got raked over the proverbial coals for doing what their situation forced them to do.
 
Many of us had the opportunity to choose. My biggest respects go to those who got drafted (didn't have the choice, but did the best they could, anyway, in spite of trying to fight while politicians kept their hands tied behind their backs.) Yeah.....I'm talking about the Vietnam Vets that our country threw under the bus. It's a bitter part of my world. I got praised for doing nothing. They got raked over the proverbial coals for doing what their situation forced them to do.
Very well said my friend.
 
Very well said my friend.

It's kinda strange every year. I know you understand. We didn't do what we did so we could get a "Thank you". We chose our path because our path chose us. Call it patriotism or whatever word you chose, we had a need in our soul to do something that was beyond us as individuals. I will never regret my decision, but at the same time, I will never "expect" praise for my decision. I did it for me as much as I did it for my country. Most Vietnam Vets didn't have that choice.
 
It's kinda strange every year. I know you understand. We didn't do what we did so we could get a "Thank you". We chose our path because our path chose us. Call it patriotism or whatever word you chose, we had a need in our soul to do something that was beyond us as individuals. I will never regret my decision, but at the same time, I will never "expect" praise for my decision. I did it for me as much as I did it for my country. Most Vietnam Vets didn't have that choice.
I absolutely agree. I did my small part, but it wasn't for praise or recognition. Actually, it feels kind of awkward to be out in public and someone says "thank you for your service." I did my job, and I came home. The thanks and recognition should go to the ones who never made it home, or who came home broken. What I did was miniscule compared to the sacrifices of others.
 
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Sometime back I received in the name of our country the bodies of four marines who had died while on active duty. I said then that there is a special sadness that accompanies the death of a serviceman, for we're never quite good enough to them-not really; we can't be, because what they gave us is beyond our powers to repay. And so, when a serviceman dies, it's a tear in the fabric, a break in the whole, and all we can do is remember.

^^Part of Reagan's speech.

I absolutely agree. I did my small part, but it wasn't for praise or recognition. Actually, it feels kind of awkward to be out in public and someone says "thank you for your service." I did my job, and I came home. The thanks and recognition should go to the ones who never made it home, or who came home broken. What I did was miniscule compared to the sacrifices of others.

It's hard to explain for those of us who made our decision. It's hard to understand for those that never felt that decision needed to be made.

We love our country.....all of us....for different reasons. The resounding connection is that.....we love our country. My wish today is that more on BOTH sides of the aisle can find a way to understand that point a little better than they do.
 
^^Part of Reagan's speech.



It's hard to explain for those of us who made our decision. It's hard to understand for those that never felt that decision needed to be made.

We love our country.....all of us....for different reasons. The resounding connection is that.....we love our country. My wish today is that more on BOTH sides of the aisle can find a way to understand that point a little better than they do.
You know ODD, if we keep making posts like these people might get the wrong idea about us and start thinking we're actually nice folks!
 
You know ODD, if we keep making posts like these people might get the wrong idea about us and start thinking we're actually nice folks!

That's OK. I won't begrudge them about how fucked up they are. I'm just trying to teach them that "they don't know what they don't know."

If they can't learn........fuck 'em. They are the problem.
 
It's kinda strange every year. I know you understand. We didn't do what we did so we could get a "Thank you". We chose our path because our path chose us. Call it patriotism or whatever word you chose, we had a need in our soul to do something that was beyond us as individuals. I will never regret my decision, but at the same time, I will never "expect" praise for my decision. I did it for me as much as I did it for my country. Most Vietnam Vets didn't have that choice.
And there are those who want to act like Nam didn't happen and for the Nam and Nam era vets to just go away.
It wasn't an easy time to serve. Unlike recently where the "in" phrase is I support the troops but not the mission. A buncha sniveling mommies basement dwellers that have no clue.
Prolly one of the better Veteran's Memorials I've seen is in Huntsville Al. A really impressive one for all wars and vets.
It does give me a bit of pride being a vet from a family of vets. Grandpa WW1, Dad and Uncle WW2, me during Nam(no combat) and my son who also did a year in Baghdad. All were Army except me Navy.
God Bless to all.
 
I signed my draft card and sent it in right before Desert Storm, never even thought of dodging if called upon. My father didnt go to VN because it was towards the end and he had a family. One grandfather served in Alaska and the other did two tours in the South Paicific (the later saw action in the first tour and volunteered for the second tour).
He never talked about his grisly experiences, all info was from second hand from other Vets when they would get together and drink. I used to ask him about his war time when I was very young (1st grade maybe?) and he would start giving me a history lesson about the Civil War and avoided any questions about WWII. It was off-limits with him. Hats off to all that served for our freedom!
 
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