Official Proof Democrats hate America thread

Nod4Eight said:
Article 1, Section 8 states that the US Congress shall have the power to ... regulate commerce ... among the several States. This bill is un-Constitutional.

And it's true, most (if not all) commercially bred sows are housed in farrowing crates (during farrowing). There is a solution, from the buyers perspective, to buy from local, small farms which may or may not employ these techniques. But there is too much regulation around that as well. For instance, I cannot sell my meat without prohibitive USDA inspections and FDA carcass inspection. I believe the market should dictate that - not Uncle Sam.

For what it's worth, I used farrowing sheds for my sows at one point, but I had lower mortality rates in a pastured environment. Although that did make a whole other dilemma when trying to wean the piglets.
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So if you can sell it live on the hoof, but can't sell finished product?
 
PSUTE said:
So if you can sell it live on the hoof, but can't sell finished product?
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Correct. I cannot, for example, act as a wholesaler to a grocer/restaurant nor can I market meat directly to the consumer (have a freezer full of meat and sell pork chops to people). I can sell you a pig (I can even haul it in for you) but it must be listed as "your pig". Of course, with friends/family this is easy to get around. But it's hard to make a living selling pork to friends and family.
 
Nod4Eight said:
Correct. I cannot, for example, act as a wholesaler to a grocer/restaurant nor can I market meat directly to the consumer (have a freezer full of meat and sell pork chops to people). I can sell you a pig (I can even haul it in for you) but it must be listed as "your pig". Of course, with friends/family this is easy to get around. But it's hard to make a living selling pork to friends and family.
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Damn, I just realized Ive have been involved in the black market for a while buying farm processed beef for the freezer.
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AlaskaGuy said:
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1508504588479086602
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PSUTE said:
Supreme Court agrees to hear challenge to law regulating how pigs are raised



Pete Williams
Mon, March 28, 2022, 9:36 AM


The Supreme Court on Monday put pork on its legal menu, taking up a challenge to a California law that regulates how pigs are raised. Pork producers said it sets unrealistic requirements and amounts to regulating the industry nationwide.
The law at issue is Proposition 12, approved by voters in 2018, which makes it illegal to sell pork in California unless the pig it comes from was born to a sow housed with at least 24 square feet of space and in conditions that allow the sow to turn around freely without touching her enclosure.
The pork producers challenging the law said hardly any commercially bred sows in the United States are housed with that much space. Given that California imports nearly all of the pork consumed in the state, they said, Proposition 12 in practical effect regulates wholly out-of-state commerce and is therefore unconstitutional. It would require, they say, a more onerous set of hog-raising practices just for pork sold in California — an unfeasible prospect.
“It requires massive and costly alteration to existing sow housing nationwide, necessitates either reduction of herd sizes or building of new facilities to meet its space mandates, raises prices in transactions with no California connection, drives farms out of business, and promotes industry consolidation, and will be policed by intrusive inspections of out-of-state farms conducted by California’s agents,” the challengers said in their appeal.
Farmers in Iowa and Minnesota, the nation’s largest pork producers, said the effects of the law “will be catastrophic and threaten our nation’s supply of safe and wholesome pork.”
The Humane Society, defending the law, said it was intended to end “cruel and unsanitary conditions that threaten the health of California consumers.”
Lawyers for the state said Proposition 12 regulates only in-state sales of products brought in from elsewhere and “is entirely indifferent to the ways products sold in other states are priced or produced."
What’s more, the state said, several pork producers, including Tyson Foods and Hormel, have publicly declared that they have taken steps to ensure that their products meet the California standard.

@Nod4Eight What do you think? Cali wants to be the tail that wags the dog...Again...
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The reason sows are put in crates where they can't turn around when they are ready to have pigs is because they will lay on the piglets after birth. The piglets are usually kept to the side of the sow. When she lays down they can nurse but the crates today keep the piglets away from underneath her for the most part. Sows will lay on pigs and won't get up. We farrowed pigs until 94 and would have dead one's from getting laid on often.
 
Copejunkie said:
The reason sows are put in crates where they can't turn around when they are ready to have pigs is because they will lay on the piglets after birth. The piglets are usually kept to the side of the sow. When she lays down they can nurse but the crates today keep the piglets away from underneath her for the most part. Sows will lay on pigs and won't get up. We farrowed pigs until 94 and would have dead one's from getting laid on often.
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Figured there was a reason. What sounds good to the uninformed (such as myself) have a reason behind it from the people who actually do it. I choose to trust the producers to maximize their profits by not letting the piglets die...
 
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