Bye Bye PAC-12

This thread is an interesting read. My thoughts - the two "superconference" model that is being speculated by everyone would kill ESPN's golden goose. College football gains viewership from all levels of FBS. If you take that viewership down from 131 to 40, ratings will drop. I know that if WVU is not in a position to play in the top "league", I am done watching the Alabama's and Ohio State's that are in the superconferences - and I really don't think I am alone. Today, I am watching EVERY college football game I can - I love the sport. I watch the Wed, Thurs night games. I watch at least 3 college games every Saturday. I have been to at least 50 different stadiums to watch games. Not only that, I am a conscious consumer and support the advertisers of these games. I think I am the type of fan that ESPN/FOX wants to stay interested in the sport. Again, if my school is left out - I am DONE - and I cannot be the only one.

What is happening to the PAC makes me sad, but there are a few reasons behind it. First, Larry Scott messed up big time with their media rights deal and the schools have been paying for it (at least my opinion from an outsider's viewpoint). They made the same mistake as the old Big East and went against the media powerhouses. Their network never gained the distribution needed to be a money maker, and my understanding is that it is a decent size expense instead. The second reason is that I think five might be too many top level conferences for the media to work with. I do believe that ESPN tried to kill the XII last year (just as Bowsby said) for the same reason. Our litigation threat against ESPN (I think we had some emails that supported it) was enough to save the conference.

With all that being said, I think this works out to be 4 power conferences, for this round - that will change when the next media contracts are up, around the time the ACC goes back on the market. Not sure where everyone ends up - but no one is joining the ACC with their current media deal and the length of their GoR. My thoughts are that the B1G and SEC are going to stand pat at 16 unless ND jumps. The XII will grab Arizona, Arizona State, Utah and Colorado - if they want an exit. The PAC survives with a short term GoR and adding teams that meet their academic requirements (not sure who that would be) with decent sports programs, but implement a tiered payout, where the old guard (UO, UW, Stanford, Cal - maybe WSU/OSU) get more of the revenue to stay afloat in today's market until the next wave. When the next wave arrives, I think the ACC, PAC and XII should work together to pool their resources to stay within reach of the B1G/SEC or college football is screwed.
 
david_WVU said:
This thread is an interesting read. My thoughts - the two "superconference" model that is being speculated by everyone would kill ESPN's golden goose. College football gains viewership from all levels of FBS. If you take that viewership down from 131 to 40, ratings will drop. I know that if WVU is not in a position to play in the top "league", I am done watching the Alabama's and Ohio State's that are in the superconferences - and I really don't think I am alone. Today, I am watching EVERY college football game I can - I love the sport. I watch the Wed, Thurs night games. I watch at least 3 college games every Saturday. I have been to at least 50 different stadiums to watch games. Not only that, I am a conscious consumer and support the advertisers of these games. I think I am the type of fan that ESPN/FOX wants to stay interested in the sport. Again, if my school is left out - I am DONE - and I cannot be the only one.

What is happening to the PAC makes me sad, but there are a few reasons behind it. First, Larry Scott messed up big time with their media rights deal and the schools have been paying for it (at least my opinion from an outsider's viewpoint). They made the same mistake as the old Big East and went against the media powerhouses. Their network never gained the distribution needed to be a money maker, and my understanding is that it is a decent size expense instead. The second reason is that I think five might be too many top level conferences for the media to work with. I do believe that ESPN tried to kill the XII last year (just as Bowsby said) for the same reason. Our litigation threat against ESPN (I think we had some emails that supported it) was enough to save the conference.

With all that being said, I think this works out to be 4 power conferences, for this round - that will change when the next media contracts are up, around the time the ACC goes back on the market. Not sure where everyone ends up - but no one is joining the ACC with their current media deal and the length of their GoR. My thoughts are that the B1G and SEC are going to stand pat at 16 unless ND jumps. The XII will grab Arizona, Arizona State, Utah and Colorado - if they want an exit. The PAC survives with a short term GoR and adding teams that meet their academic requirements (not sure who that would be) with decent sports programs, but implement a tiered payout, where the old guard (UO, UW, Stanford, Cal - maybe WSU/OSU) get more of the revenue to stay afloat in today's market until the next wave. When the next wave arrives, I think the ACC, PAC and XII should work together to pool their resources to stay within reach of the B1G/SEC or college football is screwed.
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I can say this, NBC & CBS won't allow FOX & ESPN to cut the market off and create a P2.

There's already quite a bit brewing between CBS & NBC coming over the top to beat any offer the Big XII gets from ESPN & FOX.

The good news here is timing. The Pac-10 is currently in panic mode & the ACC is locked down for another 10 years until they can do anything.

This puts the Big XII in position to benefit the most and carve our own network out now that Texas is gone.
 
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CowpokeU said:
I can say this, NBC & CBS won't allow FOX & ESPN to cut the market off and create a P2.

There's already quite a bit brewing between CBS & NBC coming over the top to beat any offer the Big XII gets from ESPN & FOX.

The good news here is timing. The Pac-10 is currently in panic mode & the ACC is locked down for another 10 years until they can do anything.

This puts the Big XII in position to benefit the most and carve our own network out now that Texas is gone.
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nbc n cbs in a bidding war
for one of the two IB2 conferences?
guess i could see that,
esp since the othe IB2 conf
is controlled by espn -


btw, texas is still in the conf -
 
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