B1G will only play a conference schedule this year

At what cost, though? The destruction of our economy?

Thing is, I don't see Covid-19 running it's course as avoidable. It will do whatever it's gonna do. Delaying the inevitable will simply stretch it out well beyond societal sustainability. Again, just my stupid opinion.

I also honestly don’t know. If we have major death tolls the next couple of weeks or a second wave fiasco like 1918, what kind of economy is there left to have?

Yes, it will do whatever, but what if the whatever is an unstoppable force like AIDS was for 30 years? What if it’s course is never ending?
 
I also honestly don’t know. If we have major death tolls the next couple of weeks or a second wave fiasco like 1918, what kind of economy is there left to have?

Yes, it will do whatever, but what if the whatever is an unstoppable force like AIDS was for 30 years? What if it’s course is never ending?

The Spanish Flu actually had a 3rd and 4th wave. It didn't complete it's full cycle of herd immunity until 1920. We just don't know how this will play out. I'm just a fan of going full speed ahead and accepting whatever happens.

Asking that "What if" question......... I'm not a fan of being scared of "what if".

"If" butterflies had machineguns, birds wouldn't fuck with them.

Back to the economy thing, though. I've not seen anywhere that suggested this, but my theory is that the Spanish Flu pandemic and government response had a substantial impact on the collapse of the stock market in 1929 and subsequent "Great Depression". It opened the door for a 4 term FDR that rewrote the freedoms that our Founding Fathers intended.
 
I just posted this on a UGA site in a discussion about having no season because of increasing numbers. I tried to be nice with my response to a Doctor.

"Those numbers probably going through the roof because testing numbers are going through the roof, but what do I know? I said months ago the numbers weren't accurate. There's a helluva lot more of us that have already had it than what is being reported. I'm not sure how to get past this because I'm not an expert on viruses, but I've seen some experts that suggested herd immunity is the quickest and best way. As a 54 year old lifelong smoker, I understand that I could be at a much higher risk of dying from this, but I'll accept my fate. I just want all this to be over with so our country can get back to normal.
The least they could do is let me watch at least one more Dawgs game before I take my trip to the other side."

Actually, the fatality rate among smokers is significantly lower for some reason. Creates a hostile working environment for it to do it's worst?
 
I lost my best friend that I grew up with when we were both 21. He got killed in an accident at work. I would have liked to have had him much longer, but we are arrogant as hell if we think for a moment that we can control death. We as a species have had to deal with diseases, viruses, parasites, etc. for eternity. All of those things are part of Earth's ecosystem. To think we have advanced ourselves to the point that we are more than just another piece of that puzzle is, IMO, the very arrogance that I spoke of.

Shit happens. It always has. Keep putting one foot in front of the other one. Move on. Enjoy everyday as if it's your last, or theirs. Just my stupid opinion.
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Yeah, most would agree they'd never want to suffer grief again. But most would also agree risk and death are parts of life. Should you never drive again, because people die in auto accidents? You might choke on a burger. People trip and fall going down stairs everyday. This virus, it's not ebola. Precautions taken initially out of fear of the unknown were reasonable. Now, given the data, which is exaggerated and sensationalized, it's ridiculous...and yes, political.
What if someone VERY close to you dies of doctor confirmed Covid?.. or survives with breathing complications for duration of life? Will it still be political to you, or will it become personal?

Listen, I have an in-law that passed during all of this, which has caused the person I love most in this world to be hurt emotionally. Devastated. Not ever having a last conversation, a hug, an open casket funeral. You see my father in law had to be cremated against his wishes. So now, not only does my wife not get a proper goodbye, she gets to experience it a second time at the 21 gun presentation finally happening 2 months later.
This is far from the saddest of circumstances, I know, but in my world, it's hurting someone I live and die for.

I think you oughtta check yourself, along with others, and realize many are having rough times due to a lot of American's selfish lifestyles.
 
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Yes, people die in car accidents, but I go a proper speed, I don’t drive under the influence, I keep an eye on surroundings.

Yes, I might choke on a burger, but I make sure to take small bites, have liquid around me, and chew slowly to avoid the hazard.

No, this virus isn’t Ebola but it’s also new and still inconclusive in a number of aspects. So I wear a mask, I keep my distance, I keep interactions outside my house limited.
Yes, exactly. You're talking about personal responsibility and accepted risk. That's exactly what we should be doing, right now. Instead, we have a draconian overreaction mandate to keep things closed, forced masks, etc. It's the equivalent of the government saying you CANNOT drive because, even though you don't speed or drive drunk, other might. You CANNOT eat a burger, because some people DO choke. College football should happen...if they want to do restrictions on the number of attendants, fine. And fans can take the risks if they choose to attend. But people are being cowardly by suggesting that anyone that has the gaul to live their life is selfishly endangering others, and that is not only ridiculous, it's extremely selfish. And lest anyone claim I'm boo boo facing because no buh footbawlz, this will affect countless people's jobs/income, way of life, etc. Kids will miss a season, fans will miss a season, some people will die having already seen their last game, etc etc etc, another piece of American way of life canceled because people clutch their pearls because the media stokes fear, and people choose to be cowards.
 
What if someone VERY close to you dies of doctor confirmed Covid?.. or survives with breathing complications for duration of life? Will it still be political to you, or will it become personal?
Something can be personal and still be political. Someone loses a loved one in a war, like say, Vietnam, well, thats personal for the family that lost a loved one, and it's still a political war, right? If, hypothetically, someone close to me died or suffered irreversible health conditions due to it, it would obviously be personal...but that would in no way change this virus has been politicized and, frankly, weaponized.
Listen, I have an in-law that passed during all of this, which has caused the person I love most in this world to be hurt emotionally. Devastated. Not ever having a last conversation, a hug, an open casket funeral. You see my father in law had to be cremated against his wishes. So now, not only does my wife not get a proper goodbye, she gets to experience it a second time at the 21 gun presentation finally happening 2 months later.
This is far from the saddest of circumstances, I know, but in my world, it's hurting someone I live and die for.

And that is tragic. And I feel for you, and her, and it makes me angry. But, what point are you making? You've given a personal, anecdotal example that sucks tremendously. But what does that have to do to invalidate my point? If anything, I'd argue it helps make it...your wife and you should have absolutely been able to have a meeting with him before his passing, absolutely should have been able to have a funeral. That you weren't allowed to is exactly what I am so frustrated about. Your wife (and yourself) had to be robbed of something tender and special because people are hysterically terrified, and the various state governments tyrannical. Obviously NO ONE wants ANYONE to die of Covid...but people are going to, and that's a tragic fact of life. Keeping 97% of everyone locked down and unable to LIFE to keep 3% from dying is, frankly, lunacy.

And, at the risk of coming off like an asshole here, everyone has been suffering throughout this ordeal. I am fortunate, I've not lost anyone. I am very blessed. But, like everyone, I haven't seen MY family in months. I FaceTime them, of course, but I see my parents age week by week, and part of that is isolation. If one of them passed, you bet I'm be furious...and I'd blame it on the LOCKDOWN rather than the virus itself. I've had friends who've lost their jobs, homes, spouses, etc over this. It's been a tremendous, and frightening strain on my wife and myself...but, all of those I just listed were a result of the lockdown, not Covid-19.
I think you oughtta check yourself, along with others, and realize many are having rough times due to a lot of American's selfish lifestyles.

Check myself? Piss off. Check yourself. You don't have an exclusive on griping about conditions. Everyone is having a rough time, though admittedly, some more than others. I am blessed to live in a state where our freedoms have been more or less intact, and if my quality of life is better, then let it be an example follow. People should pressure their governors to open as much as possible, to alleviate the rough times people are suffering. And as for selfish lifestyles, I can only assume that's a shot at me inferring that I'm selfish to want football? I'm disgusted by the hypocrisy and cowardice of the country, and I agree the country is nauseatingly selfish, but, I'd direct that in one of a thousand different directions. And lets not forget, America didn't cause this mess...that'd be China, and it was made worse here, initially, due to the selfishness of - well, I'd go on, but I do't want to make it political, because, it has to remain personal right?

I am truly sorry for your loss, the pain your wife went (and are going) thru, and the heartache is gives you as a wounded spouse. I get it can make the situation "emotional". But, logically, the continued cowering in fear that we, as Americans, are continuing to do repulses me...especially when I can see it for what it is. THAT should make everyone angry.
 
The Spanish Flu actually had a 3rd and 4th wave. It didn't complete it's full cycle of herd immunity until 1920. We just don't know how this will play out. I'm just a fan of going full speed ahead and accepting whatever happens.

Asking that "What if" question......... I'm not a fan of being scared of "what if".

"If" butterflies had machineguns, birds wouldn't fuck with them.

Back to the economy thing, though. I've not seen anywhere that suggested this, but my theory is that the Spanish Flu pandemic and government response had a substantial impact on the collapse of the stock market in 1929 and subsequent "Great Depression". It opened the door for a 4 term FDR that rewrote the freedoms that our Founding Fathers intended.
Yes, exactly. You're talking about personal responsibility and accepted risk. That's exactly what we should be doing, right now. Instead, we have a draconian overreaction mandate to keep things closed, forced masks, etc. It's the equivalent of the government saying you CANNOT drive because, even though you don't speed or drive drunk, other might. You CANNOT eat a burger, because some people DO choke. College football should happen...if they want to do restrictions on the number of attendants, fine. And fans can take the risks if they choose to attend. But people are being cowardly by suggesting that anyone that has the gaul to live their life is selfishly endangering others, and that is not only ridiculous, it's extremely selfish. And lest anyone claim I'm boo boo facing because no buh footbawlz, this will affect countless people's jobs/income, way of life, etc. Kids will miss a season, fans will miss a season, some people will die having already seen their last game, etc etc etc, another piece of American way of life canceled because people clutch their pearls because the media stokes fear, and people choose to be cowards.

UNC just had 37 players test positive, how do you fully expect a season with teams having 37 players out for two weeks?

37 players all of whom are sons, grandsons, brothers, uncles, (some fathers) that can pass a deadly, highly contagious disease off to at riskfamily members, or at risk coaches and trainers and staff who are providers for their family.

And yes, (and we’re not going to agree on this) but the bullshit by people who didn’t want to be uncomfortable by wearing a mask, or didn’t want to sacrifice even the smallest freedoms are dicks and have done nothing but prolonged this mess because they listened to their own media outlets and shitty leaders that stoked their own paranoia about “losing freedom.”

And nobody on this board loves football more than me, and the thought of a lost season is depressing as hell, and yes, it’s going to do damage. But it’s the right thing to do to preserve long term, and if it makes morons finally take this thing serious than there Is a silver lining.
 
UNC just had 37 players test positive, how do you fully expect a season with teams having 37 players out for two weeks?
Testing positive doesn't mean they have symptoms that prevent them from training, just practicing. It can be worked around. Easily
37 players all of whom are sons, grandsons, brothers, uncles, (some fathers) that can pass a deadly, highly contagious disease off to at riskfamily members, or at risk coaches and trainers and staff who are providers for their family.
Oh, someone think of the children!!!!! Won't someone think of the children?!?!

Jesus, you're such a pretend pearl clutcher over this. If someone doesn't want to practice, I'm sure they wouldn't be forced to. I am sure the NCAA would allow an additional year of eligibility. Additionally, these players are young athletes in their prime in peak physical condition, with the best medical staff and facilities at their exposure. They're probably SAFER being on campus and at practice. As for passing on the highly contagious virus, it's not as deadly as people LIE and pretend it is. Again, if a player is scared that they might pass it on and accidentally eradicate their family (which would never happen), so be it. Shutting down the entire sport is cowardice. Cowardice.
And yes, (and we’re not going to agree on this) but the bullshit by people who didn’t want to be uncomfortable by wearing a mask, or didn’t want to sacrifice even the smallest freedoms are dicks and have done nothing but prolonged this mess because they listened to their own media outlets and shitty leaders that stoked their own paranoia about “losing freedom.”

Actually, they've accelerated it. And you're a fat hypocrite and I'm sure are too self unawares to realize it. Jesus. In fact, anyone that listens to mainstream media to get their information on this virus IS A FUCKING IDIOT and that applies to anyone who reads this sentence. If you believe the MSM, you are an idiot. We're still all friends here. Just, some of you are misinformed. And hey, call me a dick, but masks are horse shit, and I'm not wearing one, and won't under most circumstances.
And nobody on this board loves football more than me,
HA!
and the thought of a lost season is depressing as hell, and yes, it’s going to do damage. But it’s the right thing to do to preserve long term, and if it makes morons finally take this thing serious than there Is a silver lining.
Bullshit. Enjoy being a karen, coward. This thing was taken "seriously", and too seriously. Anyone still in a panic post mid May is willfully hysterical. By the way, this virus will suddenly be cured/a non factor the second week of November. I'll still be living in Alabama, mask free, going to work and enjoying life as death rates continue to drop despite elevating confirmed cases as the country burns in blue states, shaking my head at the fear mongering taking place coast to coast..
 
Testing positive doesn't mean they have symptoms that prevent them from training, just practicing. It can be worked around. Easily

Oh, someone think of the children!!!!! Won't someone think of the children?!?!

Jesus, you're such a pretend pearl clutcher over this. If someone doesn't want to practice, I'm sure they wouldn't be forced to. I am sure the NCAA would allow an additional year of eligibility. Additionally, these players are young athletes in their prime in peak physical condition, with the best medical staff and facilities at their exposure. They're probably SAFER being on campus and at practice. As for passing on the highly contagious virus, it's not as deadly as people LIE and pretend it is. Again, if a player is scared that they might pass it on and accidentally eradicate their family (which would never happen), so be it. Shutting down the entire sport is cowardice. Cowardice.


Actually, they've accelerated it. And you're a fat hypocrite and I'm sure are too self unawares to realize it. Jesus. In fact, anyone that listens to mainstream media to get their information on this virus IS A FUCKING IDIOT and that applies to anyone who reads this sentence. If you believe the MSM, you are an idiot. We're still all friends here. Just, some of you are misinformed. And hey, call me a dick, but masks are horse shit, and I'm not wearing one, and won't under most circumstances.

HA!

Bullshit. Enjoy being a karen, coward. This thing was taken "seriously", and too seriously. Anyone still in a panic post mid May is willfully hysterical. By the way, this virus will suddenly be cured/a non factor the second week of November. I'll still be living in Alabama, mask free, going to work and enjoying life as death rates continue to drop despite elevating confirmed cases as the country burns in blue states, shaking my head at the fear mongering taking place coast to coast..
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Testing positive doesn't mean they have symptoms that prevent them from training, just practicing. It can be worked around. Easily

Oh, someone think of the children!!!!! Won't someone think of the children?!?!

Jesus, you're such a pretend pearl clutcher over this. If someone doesn't want to practice, I'm sure they wouldn't be forced to. I am sure the NCAA would allow an additional year of eligibility. Additionally, these players are young athletes in their prime in peak physical condition, with the best medical staff and facilities at their exposure. They're probably SAFER being on campus and at practice. As for passing on the highly contagious virus, it's not as deadly as people LIE and pretend it is. Again, if a player is scared that they might pass it on and accidentally eradicate their family (which would never happen), so be it. Shutting down the entire sport is cowardice. Cowardice.


Actually, they've accelerated it. And you're a fat hypocrite and I'm sure are too self unawares to realize it. Jesus. In fact, anyone that listens to mainstream media to get their information on this virus IS A FUCKING IDIOT and that applies to anyone who reads this sentence. If you believe the MSM, you are an idiot. We're still all friends here. Just, some of you are misinformed. And hey, call me a dick, but masks are horse shit, and I'm not wearing one, and won't under most circumstances.

HA!

Bullshit. Enjoy being a karen, coward. This thing was taken "seriously", and too seriously. Anyone still in a panic post mid May is willfully hysterical. By the way, this virus will suddenly be cured/a non factor the second week of November. I'll still be living in Alabama, mask free, going to work and enjoying life as death rates continue to drop despite elevating confirmed cases as the country burns in blue states, shaking my head at the fear mongering taking place coast to coast..

You are such a badass, bro.

But training and practice aren’t the same thing. Masks and social distancing do help. YouTube Videos from random conspiracy rednecks are no more valid than the boogie man MSM, but as always, your ego and own lack of self awareness convince you differently. This virus will still be here in November, and you’re acting just as much of a “Karen” as anybody.
 
You are such a badass, bro.
Not being badass....just, not being chicken little.
But training and practice aren’t the same thing.
True. But, we could still salvage a season, and the pros of doing so outweigh the cons. Honestly, I'm at the point I hope there's no season, honestly. That doesn't change the stupidity of this.

Masks and social distancing do help.
Help, and make the amount of difference suggested are two different things. A band aid stops bleeding, and makes sense to apply to a cut, rather than nothing. A ban aid isn't gonna help a gunshot wound. Nor should a cast be applied to a paper cut. I'm all for people (or businesses) voluntarily social distancing, and wearing (mandating) masks. I am against mandated mask policies, and government mandated shut down of businesses. Especially given the data. [/QUOTE]


YouTube Videos from random conspiracy rednecks are no more valid than the boogie man MSM,
Congrats, you're a dope.
but as always, your ego and own lack of self awareness convince you differently.
Presumptuous too. Additionally, whats the old adage? It ain't bragging if you can back it up.
This virus will still be here in November,
Oh, agreed. It's now going to be seasonal, because everyone locked down for too long, and continue to do so, drawing out it's (now likely permanent) existence.
and you’re acting just as much of a “Karen” as anybody.
Nah. Pointing out dumbassery isn't the same as hyperventilating and screaming black death.
 
I fully agree with that part.

I'm a lifelong believer that if you're scared of dying, then you're scared of living.

I’m a lifelong believer in don’t be a pussy.

Football is a rough sport. There will be injuries. Suck it up buttercup. Bring back targeting, launching and horse collar tackling.

To younger people, this simply is not a serious health risk. By all means protect the vulnerable and take some reasonable steps like limited crowds and/or eliminating a couple of cupcake games. Otherwise put your head down and power through it.
 
Pretty sure there's a political wasteland thing for people to post political wasteland things in.
 
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Something can be personal and still be political. Someone loses a loved one in a war, like say, Vietnam, well, thats personal for the family that lost a loved one, and it's still a political war, right? If, hypothetically, someone close to me died or suffered irreversible health conditions due to it, it would obviously be personal...but that would in no way change this virus has been politicized and, frankly, weaponized.


And that is tragic. And I feel for you, and her, and it makes me angry. But, what point are you making? You've given a personal, anecdotal example that sucks tremendously. But what does that have to do to invalidate my point? If anything, I'd argue it helps make it...your wife and you should have absolutely been able to have a meeting with him before his passing, absolutely should have been able to have a funeral. That you weren't allowed to is exactly what I am so frustrated about. Your wife (and yourself) had to be robbed of something tender and special because people are hysterically terrified, and the various state governments tyrannical. Obviously NO ONE wants ANYONE to die of Covid...but people are going to, and that's a tragic fact of life. Keeping 97% of everyone locked down and unable to LIFE to keep 3% from dying is, frankly, lunacy.

And, at the risk of coming off like an asshole here, everyone has been suffering throughout this ordeal. I am fortunate, I've not lost anyone. I am very blessed. But, like everyone, I haven't seen MY family in months. I FaceTime them, of course, but I see my parents age week by week, and part of that is isolation. If one of them passed, you bet I'm be furious...and I'd blame it on the LOCKDOWN rather than the virus itself. I've had friends who've lost their jobs, homes, spouses, etc over this. It's been a tremendous, and frightening strain on my wife and myself...but, all of those I just listed were a result of the lockdown, not Covid-19.


Check myself? Piss off. Check yourself. You don't have an exclusive on griping about conditions. Everyone is having a rough time, though admittedly, some more than others. I am blessed to live in a state where our freedoms have been more or less intact, and if my quality of life is better, then let it be an example follow. People should pressure their governors to open as much as possible, to alleviate the rough times people are suffering. And as for selfish lifestyles, I can only assume that's a shot at me inferring that I'm selfish to want football? I'm disgusted by the hypocrisy and cowardice of the country, and I agree the country is nauseatingly selfish, but, I'd direct that in one of a thousand different directions. And lets not forget, America didn't cause this mess...that'd be China, and it was made worse here, initially, due to the selfishness of - well, I'd go on, but I do't want to make it political, because, it has to remain personal right?

I am truly sorry for your loss, the pain your wife went (and are going) thru, and the heartache is gives you as a wounded spouse. I get it can make the situation "emotional". But, logically, the continued cowering in fear that we, as Americans, are continuing to do repulses me...especially when I can see it for what it is. THAT should make everyone angry.
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