National Archives puts Trigger warning on the Constitution

CowpokeU said:
I'm actually an Aggie, degree in forestry resource mgmt with a minor in soil sciences.

Here in NC, we have been having weird inversion issues with the atmosphere.

Two years ago, soil was good temp by may, this year since Covid kind of fucked around and lack of air and traffic travel along with mills and plants running ended up seeing us eclipse 80 degrees maaaaybe 3 or 4 times this summer.

We've had a weird growing season, my cabbages never formed a head and just sat in the ground, amended soil and all. Carrots didn't even start making move until late June. Corn is about a good 4 feet lower due to the weird weather year.

It's all kind of interesting and I haven't even talked about trees yet that require certain temps to grow and could only recently take off with temps being lower. Historically this was the 3 most populous tree in the Appalachian range.
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Whole lotta nerd talk there going over our heads.
 
CowpokeU said:
Politics and Political dogma is nothing more than watching Art Briles Baylor and Sandusky Era Penn State playing each other (with all their crimes in full light) and then watching people actually pick a side to root for and hate the other.

It's ridiculous. It's also designed.

All this bullshit with ultra libs and trigger warnings and shit will cannibalize itself until they are all wrong and nobody is right.

All this shit with pseudoscience right wingers more prone to believe religious superstition over actual observable science is going to cannibalize itself in the way of the long con.

The right can't see that the left can call themselves and be themselves all they want and it won't actually affect our daily lives.

The left can't see that time isn't a constant that exists as of today and that in their righteousness to sanitize society they themselves will be looked at in the same lense they look at the past with by the future thems and judged to be some kind of phobe. The right however on this is right but in a wrong way about keeping history intact.

What you are seeing unfold and some of you including myself participate in the collapse of American society that can only lead to civil war or a peaceful but complete breakup of federal territories leading to a multi nation state where one once stood.

I'm high, politics are stupid and people that nut hug politicians and political parties with their mouths are even more stupid.
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Situational design, to be exact 💯
 
CowpokeU said:
Season 2 is yet to release.

I enjoyed season 1 as it felt more a sendoff for Data than anything.

also TITANS
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See it had moments… I loved the scenes with Riker and Troi, but I hated the disrespect done to Picard, it didn’t feel like the same universe as Tng/DS9/VOY (look, tine, writing, etc) I hated the new characters, the breaks from canon, and I hate the Kelvin continuation of a destroyed Romulus and the over the top less than subtle way Romulan refugees were an allegory and political statement for migrants/aliens/refugees. I hated the way Starfleet was portrayed, and try not to read political commentary into that. I was highly disappointed but it did have bright spots, as you said, giving closure in a sense to Data’s death/sacrifice in Nemesis (though again with a Kelvin continuation that movie’s and TNGs series ending is undermined).
 
Toadman005 said:
See it had moments… I loved the scenes with Riker and Troi, but I hated the disrespect done to Picard, it didn’t feel like the same universe as Tng/DS9/VOY (look, tine, writing, etc)

*Riker and Troi were the surprise of the season. I kind of like what happened with Star Fleet and how they unbecame themselves in an attempt to appease a Romulan Culture which is what I assume the Disrespect/hesitant respect is shown to Picard by everyone still wearing the uniform. It felt like they were saying, when you join a federation or a dominant culture, it's best to assimilate than it is to demand.*

I hated the new characters, the breaks from canon,

*Okay, I wasn't too star struck by the new characters though I did like Soji's arc and love that Data lives in her.*

and I hate the Kelvin continuation of a destroyed Romulus and the over the top less than subtle way Romulan refugees were an allegory and political statement for migrants/aliens/refugees.

*That was honestly the strongest point of this plot just IMO. The closest we've ever seen cultures have to learn and adapt to Star Fleet and Federation rule was probably DS9 with the Dominion after the instability they created.

Watching the give and mostly take by the Romulans was not ST canonically but I will say, it was interesting.*

I hated the way Starfleet was portrayed, and try not to read political commentary into that.

*You and I both but I love that it was Picards influence and Riker who saved the soul of Starfleet in the end.*

I was highly disappointed but it did have bright spots, as you said, giving closure in a sense to Data’s death/sacrifice in Nemesis (though again with a Kelvin continuation that movie’s and TNGs series ending is undermined).

*One thing I hate, is I feel we will have to live in a post Kelvin continuity world.

Data's closure arc almost pulled a tear out of me.

One character I absolutely loved this season was Seven of Nine, (more like please be Seven of Mine) her taking over the Borg cube, activating the Borg and protecting the X-B's was both sex and amazing. Her ability to unplug herself from the Hive was also a huge move in a post Borg world*
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AlaskaGuy said:
Not one of the Nov. 6th protesters was armed tmk.

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CowpokeU said:
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So yeah I def felt they were trying to make a “changing demographic” and “resentment to others” thread by design. And honestly maybe it’s the continuity nerd in me but if that was the case I’d be fine with it, we’re it say, other franchise. Star Trek is my optimism fran. And I know I seem hypocritical as my favorite show ever, DS9 turned the “ideal” of Trek on its ear quite a bit, but it ultimately, while challenging Roddenberry’s vision, came back to faith in humanity (even if that was via an alien species). To twist Trek to push a single political statement pisses me off. Yes Trek has always connected on social issues (as good science fiction does), but at least Trek always/traditionally did so by challenging one to think, rather than being so in on the nose, and Trek always presented issues as complex and landing in shades of grey, often giving compelling counter argument in representing both sides. I do not feel Picard (series) did that at all. It was always clear what the writers felt. Shit my DS9 writers were/are blue bearded communists but they never made that known in the show! Also to circle back to using Romulans, it felt like the writers had ignored or didn’t bother themselves to watch 5 series worth of canon or OT/TNG movies and just rewatched the Abrams Kelvin-trek, maybe read some wiki notes about Romulans but that’s it. I get makeup evolves so I can accept Klingons appearances changed but, have tried to be semi consistent in the appearance and cultures - the Romulans in Picard don’t feel like Romulans to me. At all. They don’t look like them (a ginger, curly haired Romulan??), act like them (subjected to servant style labor), etc. and maybe that was deliberate but, to me it felt disrespectful and wrong to, within a literal single generation, expect a people to be so vastly different and removed. But I’ll grant you it was interesting and I’d gripe less were they a different race…not only because it’d insulting to Romulans but also, shat on all of Spock’s work to socially change Romulus, and shat on Jean-Lucy’s inroads made with them (and Data’s sacrifice there). TBH they almost felt more Bajoran to me. Sevens inclusion while interesting also -to me- was odd. I couldn’t help but feel the writer just pulled in a fan favorite from a different series just to have another strong female character. That she was so different from what I remember firm Voyager didn’t bother me as much as I never liked her character, and given the time that’d passed, I could accept it. And while different she was far more interesting than I found cat suit knockoff Data VOY ratings booster JeriRyan. But I am 100% there with you I liked Picard bringing Will out of retiascurity, and his scene where he brought the whole fleet and gave his cocky warning was great, and I geeked out (though I hated all the ships being the same. Like wtf, they should be diverse and such a great chance for some class-ship cameos but I digress…it was still a sting flex). But in the end my biggest gripe was Picard feeling like a weak, feeble, indecisive old man who was continually planing second fiddle on his own show, when he wasn’t disrespected, and having little chemistry with (most of) the new crew of characters, most of whom felt like cliches rather than fleshed out characters (though to be fair it was one season).
 
Toadman005 said:
So yeah I def felt they were trying to make a “changing demographic” and “resentment to others” thread by design. And honestly maybe it’s the continuity nerd in me but if that was the case I’d be fine with it, we’re it say, other franchise. Star Trek is my optimism fran. And I know I seem hypocritical as my favorite show ever, DS9 turned the “ideal” of Trek on its ear quite a bit, but it ultimately, while challenging Roddenberry’s vision, came back to faith in humanity (even if that was via an alien species). To twist Trek to push a single political statement pisses me off. Yes Trek has always connected on social issues (as good science fiction does), but at least Trek always/traditionally did so by challenging one to think, rather than being so in on the nose, and Trek always presented issues as complex and landing in shades of grey, often giving compelling counter argument in representing both sides. I do not feel Picard (series) did that at all. It was always clear what the writers felt. Shit my DS9 writers were/are blue bearded communists but they never made that known in the show! Also to circle back to using Romulans, it felt like the writers had ignored or didn’t bother themselves to watch 5 series worth of canon or OT/TNG movies and just rewatched the Abrams Kelvin-trek, maybe read some wiki notes about Romulans but that’s it. I get makeup evolves so I can accept Klingons appearances changed but, have tried to be semi consistent in the appearance and cultures - the Romulans in Picard don’t feel like Romulans to me. At all. They don’t look like them (a ginger, curly haired Romulan??), act like them (subjected to servant style labor), etc. and maybe that was deliberate but, to me it felt disrespectful and wrong to, within a literal single generation, expect a people to be so vastly different and removed. But I’ll grant you it was interesting and I’d gripe less were they a different race…not only because it’d insulting to Romulans but also, shat on all of Spock’s work to socially change Romulus, and shat on Jean-Lucy’s inroads made with them (and Data’s sacrifice there). TBH they almost felt more Bajoran to me. Sevens inclusion while interesting also -to me- was odd. I couldn’t help but feel the writer just pulled in a fan favorite from a different series just to have another strong female character. That she was so different from what I remember firm Voyager didn’t bother me as much as I never liked her character, and given the time that’d passed, I could accept it. And while different she was far more interesting than I found cat suit knockoff Data VOY ratings booster JeriRyan. But I am 100% there with you I liked Picard bringing Will out of retiascurity, and his scene where he brought the whole fleet and gave his cocky warning was great, and I geeked out (though I hated all the ships being the same. Like wtf, they should be diverse and such a great chance for some class-ship cameos but I digress…it was still a sting flex). But in the end my biggest gripe was Picard feeling like a weak, feeble, indecisive old man who was continually planing second fiddle on his own show, when he wasn’t disrespected, and having little chemistry with (most of) the new crew of characters, most of whom felt like cliches rather than fleshed out characters (though to be fair it was one season).
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Toadman005 said:
So yeah I def felt they were trying to make a “changing demographic” and “resentment to others” thread by design. And honestly maybe it’s the continuity nerd in me but if that was the case I’d be fine with it, we’re it say, other franchise. Star Trek is my optimism fran. And I know I seem hypocritical as my favorite show ever, DS9 turned the “ideal” of Trek on its ear quite a bit, but it ultimately, while challenging Roddenberry’s vision, came back to faith in humanity (even if that was via an alien species). To twist Trek to push a single political statement pisses me off. Yes Trek has always connected on social issues (as good science fiction does), but at least Trek always/traditionally did so by challenging one to think, rather than being so in on the nose, and Trek always presented issues as complex and landing in shades of grey, often giving compelling counter argument in representing both sides. I do not feel Picard (series) did that at all. It was always clear what the writers felt. Shit my DS9 writers were/are blue bearded communists but they never made that known in the show! Also to circle back to using Romulans, it felt like the writers had ignored or didn’t bother themselves to watch 5 series worth of canon or OT/TNG movies and just rewatched the Abrams Kelvin-trek, maybe read some wiki notes about Romulans but that’s it. I get makeup evolves so I can accept Klingons appearances changed but, have tried to be semi consistent in the appearance and cultures - the Romulans in Picard don’t feel like Romulans to me. At all. They don’t look like them (a ginger, curly haired Romulan??), act like them (subjected to servant style labor), etc. and maybe that was deliberate but, to me it felt disrespectful and wrong to, within a literal single generation, expect a people to be so vastly different and removed. But I’ll grant you it was interesting and I’d gripe less were they a different race…not only because it’d insulting to Romulans but also, shat on all of Spock’s work to socially change Romulus, and shat on Jean-Lucy’s inroads made with them (and Data’s sacrifice there). TBH they almost felt more Bajoran to me. Sevens inclusion while interesting also -to me- was odd. I couldn’t help but feel the writer just pulled in a fan favorite from a different series just to have another strong female character. That she was so different from what I remember firm Voyager didn’t bother me as much as I never liked her character, and given the time that’d passed, I could accept it. And while different she was far more interesting than I found cat suit knockoff Data VOY ratings booster JeriRyan. But I am 100% there with you I liked Picard bringing Will out of retiascurity, and his scene where he brought the whole fleet and gave his cocky warning was great, and I geeked out (though I hated all the ships being the same. Like wtf, they should be diverse and such a great chance for some class-ship cameos but I digress…it was still a sting flex). But in the end my biggest gripe was Picard feeling like a weak, feeble, indecisive old man who was continually planing second fiddle on his own show, when he wasn’t disrespected, and having little chemistry with (most of) the new crew of characters, most of whom felt like cliches rather than fleshed out characters (though to be fair it was one season).
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First I want to say, I'm having a nerd out gasm because I don't have friends to really talk ST with. Also, we need @Bamaklingon here.

So Commodore O the half Vulcan and Romulan looked almost Klingon to me which goes with your point.

I'm pretty sure most the Romulans we saw through Picard were mixed with something, especially the Tal Shiar which was weird. Also, I was missing a whole chunk with one of the Zhat Vash being assimilated by the Borg and then became eX-B.

The only take away from the Romulans here was we only really saw a few of them and they were either Tal Shiar or Zhat Vash which let's be honest are just different wings of the same Warbird huehue lol. I'm just going to assume we are working with a very small contingent and the two Romulans at Picards Chateau actually looked Romulan.

To touch on your Bajoran reference, the Tal Shiar are so easily interchangeable with the Cardassians Obsidian Order that I was thinking heeeey this feels familiar hahaha.

Sevens part in the story was cool for me because it continued Picards connection to the Borg as Locutus and served to show how his mind and body were failing him in a bigger manner than just the brain pains. At least that's how I took it.

Seven being in there was a geek moment for me too because so much sex. Also, I'm glad she's not body suit eye candy Data you ordered off wish dot com.

That scene where Riker comes up with the fleet was awesome even though like you, I wanted to see multiple types of class ships. Thank gog we didn't have an Abrams style Dreadnaught.

All in all, I was pleasantly surprised with Picard and equally as frustrated but I remind myself that ST took a whole different route post Abrams and I'm happy Picard wasn't this kill fest that others have turned to making it appear more Star Wars than Star Trek. Yeah we had a bit of violence but thankfully not on a huge level.
 
Try this one out as a hypothetical.

Star Trek Insurrection. Picard leaves starfleet and goes to the planet with healing and rejuvenation power to live. Have to go there to get him for the Picard series.

And Seven is good to look at.
 
LyquidMetal said:
Try this one out as a hypothetical.

Star Trek Insurrection. Picard leaves starfleet and goes to the planet with healing and rejuvenation power to live. Have to go there to get him for the Picard series.

And Seven is good to look at.
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Of all the ST films I like that one the least…plus they cut (and apparently destroyed) Quark’s cameo.
 
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