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//Teams don't rise and fall on one game.\\
See the longhorns after the 2009 season and played BAMA for the crystal. They haven't been the same since.
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See the longhorns after the 2009 season and played BAMA for the crystal. They haven't been the same since.
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I meant as far as a playoff. I saw the game between Texas and Alabama. We don't really know for certain which team was superior because McCoy was out. Not that I necessarily ascribe the loss to his absence. But it makes a difference in making an inference. As far as Texas, I wouldn't know whether or not it hinged on one game. If I had to guess I'd say it didn't. And you are aware they were phenomenal with Vince Young at the helm. I think you are farsighted. I think it's incredibly tough for anyone to make a championship run. Alabama won. But Texas very nearly rallied. I remember watching the game. You make it sound like Texas was routed or something. Alabama damn near threw that game away. The simple fact is Texas had Alabama's number. Look at history. I don't like throwing baseless accusation s but I wonder if hurting McCoy wasn't intentional? Doesn't matter. Texas still nearly are their lunch. Alabama was lucky to win that game. Win it, they assuredly did but it was anything but a cakewalk. I thought Texas showed a lot of gumption staying close. It turned on one play that might have been incorrectly ruled a fumble. It might have been an incomplete pass attempt. Lest you think I'm manufacturing something a similar call negated a fumble by Tom Brady in the infamous 'tuck rule' playoff between New England and Oakland. I'm not buying what you are selling. Texas has remained competitive throughout.
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Princeton would appear to have been relevant as recently as 1950. That says something about the tenacity of the Ivy League. It's unfortunate I think they aren't represented in some fashion to the FBS. Harvard has remained relevant, too.
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That's also a season without a distinct champion. Although it's unlikely Boise St would have posed a serious challenge it might have been fun to see them try. F.W.I.W. I only mention it since you make it like you have full claim over 2009. You don't. Boise State has a partial claim on it. By the way I'm not trying to diminish Alabama's claim to the National Championship. I simply think you need to be careful how you characterize a team. I support Alabama football. I wouldn't want to taint their history or their methodology. They deserve every accolade.
But they DID back out on Brigham Young. 1996. Arkansas St. stepped in. And BYU routed them. Fair to say it might have been tough sledding for the Tide. And last year I personally think Alabama was afraid of Brigham Young.
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That sort of speaks to the changing of the guard. I honestly don't know much about the history of college football. I wouldn't know anything other than what's been reported in the newspapers. And some of that includes bias. Anyone familiar with the media knows how they try to spin a story. What separates my method is technique. When's the last thing me, for example you heard about Colorado State University? They're actually quite respectable. In 1915 it appears they were a legitimate title contender m. It's too bad they weren't paired against Nebraska. In some kind of bowl. We would know for certain if they qualified.
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Dear God of all that is holy. This isn't about mccoy or ref calls or if the moon is made of cheese. The mccoy thing has been beaten into the ground on several boards. All it takes for a win is to have one more point than the other team. I made no hint as to whether the horns were routed. You wanna conjure that out of thin air? That's on your make believe world.
Turn on one game. And the horns haven't been the same since is all I posted.
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See this?
That makes it distinct enuff for the fans. That is the trophy handed out after BAMA beat the horns. And that is a full claim. But for the belt butt babble it makes for something for you goofs to squeal about.
And all this byu squawk. Yep. You are just a pimp for byu. Just own it and quit trying to make like it makes a crap.
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I don't remember saying Alabama cheated. I wish McCoy had been available but circumstances didn't allow for it, sadly. I thought they played remarkably well without him. If you want MY opinion it might have been a blessing in disguise. Garrett Gilbert played like a rock star in his absence. I'm not saying it's a tainted title. I wish they hadn't ruled the inadvertent fumble a fumble. I do have a problem with it because Gilbert's arm was moving forward. He dropped it, but I think it was an incomplete pass attempt. I remember seeing an official initially rule it as such. I've reviewed that play repeatedly. It wasn't a fumble, IMO.
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Well, as has been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt, many times on here, your opinion isn't fact. His arm was drawing back... it did not travel forward until he was hit.
The proof is at the 1:05 mark
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Dude is bat shit crazy, and nothing you, me, or anyone short of heaven itself can say or do to make this fool believe anything other than his stupid ass unicorn and rainbows theories. It’s pathetic drivel, and the ravings of a mad man.
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Pass incomplete. That's what I see even now. If every pass had to travel forward then it would be illegal to spike the football. Look at the Tom Brady play and tell me how it's any different other than it being in a playoff game? For real. He was blindsided and threw the ball forward. I know where it landed. He wasn't lateraling it. I will submit it was intentional grounding. Alabama probably still wins. But it was the incorrect call. He wasn't carrying the football, he wasn't lateraling it. And he was blindsided while attempting to pass it.
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Wrong. He lost control of the ball before his hand even began to travel forward. Fumble.
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Wrong again. The ball travels forward because the ball is thrown at the ground thus the ball travels forward from the point of release towards the ground.
Stop being so wrong. I am laughing.
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I've already told you it's just like the Tom Brady play where he dropped it the tuck rule. Which by the way was an AFC Championship. Meaning it decided who advanced. I think it was an incomplete to forward pass. I know it travelled backward. I don't think it matters unless he fumbled. I don't see evidence of a fumble, personally. The official ruled it an incomplete forward pass attempt. Watch the replay again. Side to side arm motion is incomplete pass attempt. It travelled backward because he was blindsided. It was still a forward pass.
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You should learn what "Fumble" means. Garret's fumble was the very definition of fumble. He LOST CONTROL of the ball as soon as he was hit therefore it is a fumble since the ball was not traveling as a result of a throw.
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No quarterback would intentionally throw it backwards. I understand that. But he was impeded by the defender. Who by the way might have been illegally lined up. A defense has to maintain a position at or near the line of scrimmage. Alabama'd defense was in flux. I think up to a certain amount of time you can adjust. But not during the snap. I think Alabama ran an illegal defense. It wasn't called amidst the confusion. What it actually boiled down to was a botched blocking assignment. But Alabama stacked the line of scrimmage. I think it was an illegal defense. I'm actually disappointed that Alabama would resort to cheating to win. But apparently they felt they had no alternative. It's either that or lose to a team they NEVER best EVER. So Alabama cheated. Sad to have to see them resort to it. But maybe they felt they would lose otherwise. Contrast that to Brigham Young who almost NEVER loses to Texas. Brigham Young dud lose to Alabama, admittedly. Once. And it was in Tuscaloosa, AL.F.W.I W.
I personally think Alabama is pissing in their pants at the prospect of heating Brigham Y.
Otherwise why reschedule? To Tuscaloosa? I think they are scared of getting their ass kicked by a superior opponent, personally. Unless 38-31 makes Alabama a superior? At home against a respectable Brigham Y. I remember Brigham Young that year. Kevin Feterik. Pretty decent, actually as a Q.B.
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COMPLETELY WRONG. you keep saying "I think" because you are making shit up AGAIN. YOU ARE WRONG.
The video evidence proves you are not only wrong but lying your ass off. Sad to see you reduced to lying about a play because of jealousy. Bama won fair and square. You have no idea how he was lined up because you have no proof so you lie and say "I think". That shit is sad even for a crazy person.
It was a classic example of a fumble. I've made it easy for you to see yet you wont admit how wrong you are. This makes me feel like you are completely lying about your system and BYU is actually a shit team.
smh .... damn, obviously lying to try and cover up a perfect tackle, and fumble.
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Tom Brady"s fumble wasn't either. The point I'm making shouldn't be that hard to follow. Gilbert was attempting to pass the football. I believe there are rules in place to protect a quarterback from being blindsided. The point I'm making is he was in the process of making a throwing motion, before he was blindsided. The ball was jettisoned. Where it landed is mostly Inconsequential. He threw it directly into the ground. I think that's evidence of an incomplete forward pass. It's a little more complicated. Alabama stacked the line. The left tackle I believe lost his assignment. And was confused by the defense. I think you can only position a certain number on the line for that reason.
It was cheating in that the player was left blindsided by the coverage. If it wasn't illegal it was iffy because had he been aware of the coverage he could have made the necessary adjustment. It was weird. Sure it worked! Cheating frequently does work! But regardless it was an incomplete forward pass attempt that ricocheted backward. By the collision that was a result of a formation I tend to believe was illegal by virtue of the number if people at the line of scrimmage.
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It was a weird set of circumstances. I think it was preceded by an even stranger event. Putting Texas back against their own goal. I saw the play and couldn't fathom how a player could be left uncovered. Until I saw the replay. Alabama stacked the line then dropped two back into coverage. That's permitted. But there are limits on how many defenders you can put on the line in the first place. Why? Because it creates confusion. The guard is uncertain which defender he needs to cover if there are too many defenders on the line of scrimmage! Alabama stacked the line then pulled two back. It's illegal. They got away with it but it sure as shit is a pretty sucky way to win a NC. Why not let the player do HIS job? Because Alabama knew they weren't as good as Texas. I think we were looking at O.T. But if the officials aren't going to stand put on their own rules it's no wonder Texas lost. Yeah I guess I'm calling Alabama a cheater. Made more evident by poor sportsmanship. They stuck the dagger in. I lost a lot of respect for Nick Saban. He can dish it out but can't take it, apparently. That's pretty weak. That's a bully. IMHO.