More likely to end Ohio State's dominance in the B1G East? Penn State or Michigan

I think most of them and me in some degree just don't want to have those RichRod & Hoke years happening again. It's too bad Hoke & Harbaugh couldn't get together, as I think they could work well together. Eventually they will want better results, but I could be wrong. Maybe we are going to be just like Notre Dame and go with BK until he decides to quit.

I think you are honest about Michigan football.

But who do you get?

Even if he wins this year, all of us will say that just 1 and 5. And unless he goes 5-5 he will be written off IMO.
 
I think you are honest about Michigan football.

But who do you get?

Even if he wins this year, all of us will say that just 1 and 5. And unless he goes 5-5 he will be written off IMO.
Are you kidding? If he wins this year he'll be a bigger hero to them than Tress was to us in 2001.
 
1-5. Their record is IMPORTANT.

If they ever get 5 in a row, then they can talk.
I understand your thinking but If you don't think they're going to go nuts and act like they're all superior if/when they finally get a win then I don't know what to say.
 
I think you are honest about Michigan football.

But who do you get?

Even if he wins this year, all of us will say that just 1 and 5. And unless he goes 5-5 he will be written off IMO.

Well the majority of the fan base will try to find someone with Michigan ties who is successful at that time. I could see it being someone like Norvell going from Memphis to FSU though. Guess we shall see if that time occurs. I honestly don't know at this point.
 
I understand your thinking but If you don't think they're going to go nuts and act like they're all superior if/when they finally get a win then I don't know what to say.

Of course they are. But I will just pull a 'Michigan fan' and remind them of their record.
 
Michigan is done. Penn St is over-rated every year. We (yep UK) beat them two years ago in a bowl by lack of talent and supposedly against the brilliant mind of Franklin by running the same play over and over.

Ill pick Michigan after a rebuilding for a few years. TOSU owns the B1G 10.
 
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