Which is more important, rushing the QB or defending the pass?

Which would you rather have

  • Elite pass rush

    Votes: 11 91.7%

  • Elite secondary

    Votes: 1 8.3%
  • Total voters
    12
CollegeFBFan2021 said:
So we are talking about coverage in the secondary against pressure against the pass. O.K. but unless I'm mistaken, and I probably am, not having played football, it would seem any defense would be about coverage. Meaning defensive pressure would be applied within the package, itself.
I remember Oregon's defense. Vs. Auburn.
It seemed to rely heavily on pressure.
I like how teams play package defense. I think that's what makes a team successful.
I wish there was some kind of tutorial. I don't understand the difference between nickel and dime but that's probably what we are getting at, in a roundabout way.
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I'll put it simply. With elite pass rushers you can pressure the QB with only 4 people rushing the passer. That gives you 7 people to cover potential receivers.

Without elite pass rushers, you have to bring 5 or 6 to get pressure. That gives you only 5 or 6 people to cover potential receivers.

Having elite pass rushers makes everyone else's job a lot easier.
 
Duckboy33 said:
I'll put it simply. With elite pass rushers you can pressure the QB with only 4 people rushing the passer. That gives you 7 people to cover potential receivers.

Without elite pass rushers, you have to bring 5 or 6 to get pressure. That gives you only 5 or 6 people to cover potential receivers.

Having elite pass rushers makes everyone else's job a lot easier.
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Which I think is a defensive formation. I know, for example, Texas Christian utilizes one that sends four I think, to the pass rush.
I'm not very familiar, obviously, with those, but it ties together with what I remember.
 
CollegeFBFan2021 said:
Which I think is a defensive formation. I know, for example, Texas Christian utilizes one that sends four I think, to the pass rush.
I'm not very familiar, obviously, with those, but it ties together with what I remember.
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Dude, we need to talk. There's a lot of shit that you need to learn about football.
 
CollegeFBFan2021 said:
What do you mean? It's called a 4-2-5 defensive formation. I think it's used exclusively against the spread. Don't fucking patronize me asswipe. Seriously.
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Defensive formations are fluid during the game. You have a "base" formation, then you have adjustments based on the performance of the opposing offense. I'm not patronizing you. I'm trying to help you understand more than you apparently know. I get it that you understand textbook football, but shit changes after every play in every game you watch. I don't mean to be a dick, but you don't seem to understand all of that very well. I want to help you. If you think I'm an asswipe because I want to help you, you have more problems than I initially thought. I have more work to do than previously suspected.
 
OldDevilDawg said:
Defensive formations are fluid during the game. You have a "base" formation, then you have adjustments based on the performance of the opposing offense. I'm not patronizing you. I'm trying to help you understand more than you apparently know. I get it that you understand textbook football, but shit changes after every play in every game you watch. I don't mean to be a dick, but you don't seem to understand all of that very well. I want to help you. If you think I'm an asswipe because I want to help you, you have more problems than I initially thought. I have more work to do than previously suspected.
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Read my posts. I wasn't wrong. Not in the slightest. You think I don't know about substutuions? I said Texas Christian utilizes a 4-2-5. Actually I'm sure it varies but the point is I know something about it. Four down linemen. Two linebackers. And five defensive backs. I get pissed off if I make a mistake as if that defines who I am.
I'm probably the only truly honest person here. You probably sucked ass (I know I did) in sports, but the passing of time, as it tends to be, makes you think you were great.
Keep living the lie, my friend. I choose to live in reality. I know what defensive formations are. I played in middle school. I was terrible. I bet I understand it better than you ever will and that's pathetically sad. Try reading a book for once. Asswipe.
 
CollegeFBFan2021 said:
Read my posts. I wasn't wrong. Not in the slightest. You think I don't know about substutuions? I said Texas Christian utilizes a 4-2-5. Actually I'm sure it varies but the point is I know something about it. Four down linemen. Two linebackers. And five defensive backs. I get pissed off if I make a mistake as if that defines who I am.
I'm probably the only truly honest person here. You probably sucked ass (I know I did) in sports, but the passing of time, as it tends to be, makes you think you were great.
Keep living the lie, my friend. I choose to live in reality. I know what defensive formations are. I played in middle school. I was terrible. I bet I understand it better than you ever will and that's pathetically sad. Try reading a book for once. Asswipe.
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When someone is offering you some help, it’s generally not a good idea to piss in their beer. Let’s try and play nice.
 
RTR...USN (ret) said:
When someone is offering you some help, it’s generally not a good idea to piss in their beer. Let’s try and play nice.
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He wasn't trying to help. He was being a jerk. It's inevitable think to pretend to be dnsrter than you actually aren't. I was right. I bet he had no fucking clue what he was saying, then trued to cover by saying he knew more.
I'm calling major bullshit on it. 4-2-5 is in fact a defensive formation. He said I was FOS. I'm taking this personal. Quit covering. 4-2-5 is a way to defend the spread. I know about it because I understand defensive philosophy. It's a base coverage. F W I W.
Dude clearly didn't know his shit .
 
CollegeFBFan2021 said:
He wasn't trying to help. He was being a jerk. It's inevitable think to pretend to be dnsrter than you actually aren't. I was right. I bet he had no fucking clue what he was saying, then trued to cover by saying he knew more.
I'm calling major bullshit on it. 4-2-5 is in fact a defensive formation. He said I was FOS. I'm taking this personal. Quit covering. 4-2-5 is a way to defend the spread. I know about it because I understand defensive philosophy. It's a base coverage. F W I W.
Dude clearly didn't know his shit .
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I’m asking you nicely. Tone it down. I won’t ask again.
 
CollegeFBFan2021 said:
He wasn't trying to help. He was being a jerk. It's inevitable think to pretend to be dnsrter than you actually aren't. I was right. I bet he had no fucking clue what he was saying, then trued to cover by saying he knew more.
I'm calling major bullshit on it. 4-2-5 is in fact a defensive formation. He said I was FOS. I'm taking this personal. Quit covering. 4-2-5 is a way to defend the spread. I know about it because I understand defensive philosophy. It's a base coverage. F W I W.
Dude clearly didn't know his shit .
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So you explained yourself and my ignorant dickness. Now that you're done with that can you explain to me the difference between a nickel and a dime defensive back and the appropriate time to use one or the other, or maybe both? I'll wait.
 
OldDevilDawg said:
So you explained yourself and my ignorant dickness. Now that you're done with that can you explain to me the difference between a nickel and a dime defensive back and the appropriate time to use one or the other, or maybe both? I'll wait.
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No. But again I referenced that earlier.
 
RTR...USN (ret) said:
I’m asking you nicely. Tone it down. I won’t ask again.
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Do whatever you want. I'm tired of being treated poorly. Read the posts. I'm not initiating anything. I said I never played competitive football. Never claimed to know Jack Squat. I never claimed to be an expert about anything other than maybe the proper metric to apply against a national championship. And even that I'm a novice in. So tell me what exactly is the problem? My stupidity? Sorry I can't help being stupid.
 
CollegeFBFan2021 said:
Do whatever you want. I'm tired of being treated poorly. Read the posts. I'm not initiating anything. I said I never played competitive football. Never claimed to know Jack Squat. I never claimed to be an expert about anything other than maybe the proper metric to apply against a national championship. And even that I'm a novice in. So tell me what exactly is the problem? My stupidity? Sorry I can't help being stupid.
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I may not agree with, nor like what you have to say/post but I will vigorously defend your right to say it. Sometimes it’s not what you say, but how you say it. When you start attacking a well known and respected poster your crossing the line. All I’m asking is that you tone it down try not to attack other posters. Feel free to debate/ attack the subject, or someone’s take on a subject. Just don’t attack the poster.
 
RTR...USN (ret) said:
I may not agree with, nor like what you have to say/post but I will vigorously defend your right to say it. Sometimes it’s not what you say, but how you say it. When you start attacking a well known and respected poster your crossing the line. All I’m asking is that you tone it down try not to attack other posters. Feel free to debate/ attack the subject, or someone’s take on a subject. Just don’t attack the poster.
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I'm trying to help. Maybe I lack the credentials. Probably so. I think I admitted my lack of experience within the college football envelope. I never advanced that far. I simply want consideration for things I do know. Nobody else knew the relative proficiency of the Western Athletic Conference. I do because I researched it
40% compared to 70%. Southeastern Conference. That's essential information.
 
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