As the resident experts of CFB, a question for Bama fans.

[OldDevilDawg]

Is Georgia in a rebuilding year or a reloading year?

15 players taken in the draft. Another 13 (I think) that left for the portal. That's a shitload of attrition for 1 season. Kirby is now saying that 45-55 percent of the Freshmen will play a significant role, some even starters. No one has recruited better than UGA over the last 4 years except the Tide. Huge amounts of talent to move into positions of importance.

The only thing I know for sure is that LSU's team in 2019 lost more than they could replace. I do have visions of UGA losing 5 games, but I don't think it's likely. I still feel confident about a run to the CFP.

What say you? Rebuilding or reloading?

 

[RTR...USN (ret)]

Is Georgia in a rebuilding year or a reloading year?

15 players taken in the draft. Another 13 (I think) that left for the portal. That's a shitload of attrition for 1 season. Kirby is now saying that 45-55 percent of the Freshmen will play a significant role, some even starters. No one has recruited better than UGA over the last 4 years except the Tide. Huge amounts of talent to move into positions of importance.

The only thing I know for sure is that LSU's team in 2019 lost more than they could replace. I do have visions of UGA losing 5 games, but I don't think it's likely. I still feel confident about a run to the CFP.

What say you? Rebuilding or reloading?

Rebuilding. If you remember, I posted before the season last year that regardless of where Bama ended up it was a rebuilding year. Saban said it himself and got vilified for it. I’ll say the same thing for UGA this year. Talent can’t make up for experience regardless of how many stars are beside a players name.

 

[OldDevilDawg]

Rebuilding. If you remember, I posted before the season last year that regardless of where Bama ended up it was a rebuilding year. Saban said it himself and got vilified for it. I’ll say the same thing for UGA this year. Talent can’t make up for experience regardless of how many stars are beside a players name.

He got vilified for blaming the loss on freshmen that weren't prepared for their opportunity. He is ultimately responsible for them being prepared. The last 3 touchdowns that UGA scored in the NCG were score by freshmen. Say what you want, but in my eyes, that was a legit argument.

 

[RTR...USN (ret)]

He got vilified for blaming the loss on freshmen that weren't prepared for their opportunity. He is ultimately responsible for them being prepared. The last 3 touchdowns that UGA scored in the NCG were score by freshmen. Say what you want, but in my eyes, that was a legit argument.

It was still a rebuilding year, as stated, and a lot of young players contributed significantly and overachieved. The talking heads vilified him for saying it was a rebuilding year despite making the CFP final. He was correct. I think UGA is in the exact same position.

 

[batchaps4me]

It was still a rebuilding year, as stated, and a lot of young players contributed significantly and overachieved. The talking heads vilified him for saying it was a rebuilding year despite making the CFP final. He was correct. I think UGA is in the exact same position.

It's neither the talent nor the experience that must be rebuilt on Bama and Georgia ... you have that in spades and reload every year. It's the leadership that must occasionally be rebuilt.

 

[LyquidMetal]

He got vilified for blaming the loss on freshmen that weren't prepared for their opportunity. He is ultimately responsible for them being prepared. The last 3 touchdowns that UGA scored in the NCG were score by freshmen. Say what you want, but in my eyes, that was a legit argument.

//He is ultimately responsible for them being prepared\\
Granted. But sometimes players go thru the motions and a loss is a wakeup call.
1980. BAMA was on a 28 game winning streak and went to Ms St and lost 6-3. The Bear said afterwards that the players were acting like idiots on the way to the game. Coaches can only so so much. If the players aren't gonna respond for whatever reason, youth, overconfidence, whatever, well see what happens.

 

[RTR...USN (ret)]

It's neither the talent nor the experience that must be rebuilt on Bama and Georgia ... you have that in spades and reload every year. It's the leadership that must occasionally be rebuilt.

I somewhat disagree. Regardless of how talented and gifted you may be, it still takes time to learn the scheme and know not only what your assignment and responsibilities are, but also your teammates. This is especially true on defense, particularly when the scheme is very complex, which both Bama and UGA are. Leadership is an absolute must regardless.

 

[batchaps4me]

I somewhat disagree. Regardless of how talented and gifted you may be, it still takes time to learn the scheme and know not only what your assignment and responsibilities are, but also your teammates. This is especially true on defense, particularly when the scheme is very complex, which both Bama and UGA are. Leadership is an absolute must regardless.

You very well may be right. My perception is that over the last few seasons, Bama is more than happy to open up the O and just outscore anyone even though their defensive stats suffer. In all fairness, I just looked up the last three years of scores and compared them to the early 2010s and there isn't as big a difference as I thought.

 

[Hard2Bluff]

Is Georgia in a rebuilding year or a reloading year?

15 players taken in the draft. Another 13 (I think) that left for the portal. That's a shitload of attrition for 1 season. Kirby is now saying that 45-55 percent of the Freshmen will play a significant role, some even starters. No one has recruited better than UGA over the last 4 years except the Tide. Huge amounts of talent to move into positions of importance.

The only thing I know for sure is that LSU's team in 2019 lost more than they could replace. I do have visions of UGA losing 5 games, but I don't think it's likely. I still feel confident about a run to the CFP.

What say you? Rebuilding or reloading?

I think Bennett will have to throw more and often for what its worth. That has me wondering how damn strong that Oline will be for the RBs and the pressure Bennett will be under from what I have read. Could go either way IMHO.
EDIT: Didnt see the Bama fan part.

 

[Bullitt08]

Alabama in a rebuilding year took the best team Kirby has ever had to a 1-1 result. There is talk this year may be Saban's best team ever and Smart is rebuilding.

Prepare thou anus.

 

[OldDevilDawg]

I think Bennett will have to throw more and often for what its worth. That has me wondering how damn strong that Oline will be for the RBs and the pressure Bennett will be under from what I have read. Could go either way IMHO.
EDIT: Didnt see the Bama fan part.

I'm very curious how this season will go as a Dawg fan. I have ZERO questions about the offense. My biggest concern is how many games it will take for the defense to gel. I'm not blinded by the RednBlack like those glass wearing, nutcases on the homer boards. That's why I didn't put my Dawgs in the top 4 of my preseason poll (I put them at #7). To respond to you questions, though, a couple of things that you may not know.

1. This is Bennett's first season as the established #1 QB. He's gotten 1st team reps for the entire off season. Last year he was working with the 3s in the spring. The amount of connectivity with the pass catchers, the RBs, most importantly IMO, the Center, that difference is gonna be huge. His third season working with Monken and getting so much better understanding of what each play is designed to do is gonna put him in a position to succeed before he takes the field. He's been through the hard lessons. I'm confident what he learned the hard way will show up this year.

2. The OL will be better. Last season the starting RG, Tate Ratledge, was lost for the season in the Clemson game. He's back and hunting an NFL contract. UGA lost 2 starters to the NFL, a 3-star and a 4-star. Both will be replaced with former 5-stars that got plenty of playing time last year in the second half because of UGAs constant insurmountable leads. Cedric Van Pran, the starting Center, was the #1 Center in the nation coming out of HS and will be leading the O-line during his 2nd full year as the starter. This year's starting left tackle will be Broderick Jones. He was the #2 OT in the nation coming out of HS as well as the #11 player overall. He made himself famous in the NCG when he took over in the 2nd half and pancaked Will Anderson for the rest of the game.

 

[OldDevilDawg]

Alabama in a rebuilding year took the best team Kirby has ever had to a 1-1 result. There is talk this year may be Saban's best team ever and Smart is rebuilding.

Prepare thou anus.

You hold on to that "rebuilding" thought. It's because Saban said so, right?

An observation:

Last year Bama had the highest blue chip rating in the nation. Hell they've had that for YEARS. Give me one person that's a fan of any team that isn't Bama that will say "Winning a Natty one year and losing the Natty the following year is called 'rebuilding'. Some of you Bama fans are so used to being on top of the mountain that you can't see reality anymore. I guess that's a fun place to be, but I'll probably never know.

You're OK with Saban saying his freshmen weren't prepared for their moment when they had to step up in the NCG, but UGA's last 3 TDs were scored by Freshmen. That sounds like a coaching and development problem.

Ride your ride and enjoy it, but don't think harder than reality.

 

[Hard2Bluff]

You hold on to that "rebuilding" thought. It's because Saban said so, right?

An observation:

Last year Bama had the highest blue chip rating in the nation. Hell they've had that for YEARS. Give me one person that's a fan of any team that isn't Bama that will say "Winning a Natty one year and losing the Natty the following year is called 'rebuilding'. Some of you Bama fans are so used to being on top of the mountain that you can't see reality anymore. I guess that's a fun place to be, but I'll probably never know.

You're OK with Saban saying his freshmen weren't prepared for their moment when they had to step up in the NCG, but UGA's last 3 TDs were scored by Freshmen. That sounds like a coaching and development problem.

Ride your ride and enjoy it, but don't think harder than reality.

Multiple shots fired

 

[RTR...USN (ret)]

You hold on to that "rebuilding" thought. It's because Saban said so, right?

An observation:

Last year Bama had the highest blue chip rating in the nation. Hell they've had that for YEARS. Give me one person that's a fan of any team that isn't Bama that will say "Winning a Natty one year and losing the Natty the following year is called 'rebuilding'. Some of you Bama fans are so used to being on top of the mountain that you can't see reality anymore. I guess that's a fun place to be, but I'll probably never know.

You're OK with Saban saying his freshmen weren't prepared for their moment when they had to step up in the NCG, but UGA's last 3 TDs were scored by Freshmen. That sounds like a coaching and development problem.

Ride your ride and enjoy it, but don't think harder than reality.

Let’s revive your post from Nov of last year…


On the other side of the ball, Bama has very few senior leaders, being such a young team. The coaches have had to do a tremendous job trying to keep players humble and hungry. The problem with such talented players is arrogance and complacency. These 4-5 star guys take a few years to get past being the best player on the field for their entire life. All they ever had to do to win was show up. Senior leadership on the field, IMO, has been the problem in Tuscaloosa this year. Coaches can be great, but they can't get on the field and play the game.

You can’t have it both ways ODD, prior to that game in that thread you were discussing and agreeing about the youth and senior leadership lacking. Now you’re saying that isn’t the case and we can’t see reality anymore? Really?.Which side of your mouth should we pay attention to? The one with a tremendous amount of football knowledge, or the homer side wearing the red and black glasses?

 

[OldDevilDawg]

Let’s revive your post from Nov of last year…


On the other side of the ball, Bama has very few senior leaders, being such a young team. The coaches have had to do a tremendous job trying to keep players humble and hungry. The problem with such talented players is arrogance and complacency. These 4-5 star guys take a few years to get past being the best player on the field for their entire life. All they ever had to do to win was show up. Senior leadership on the field, IMO, has been the problem in Tuscaloosa this year. Coaches can be great, but they can't get on the field and play the game.

You can’t have it both ways ODD, prior to that game in that thread you were discussing and agreeing about the youth and senior leadership lacking. Now you’re saying that isn’t the case and we can’t see reality anymore? Really?.Which side of your mouth should we pay attention to? The one with a tremendous amount of football knowledge, or the homer side wearing the red and black glasses?

Nice dig. Let's wait until November and see if I say that same thing about UGA this year. Either way, that won't be a "rebuilding" excuse, it will be a "lack of coaching and preparedness" excuse.

Bama hasn't had to "rebuild" anything since 2007. Ask any fan, of any team, anywhere, outside of Tuscaloosa. It's a nice word to use when things don't work out the way you want, but I guess being a Bama fan of the greatest dynasty in the history of CFB has caused a convoluted disillusionment of the world that the rest of us live in.

 

[RTR...USN (ret)]

Nice dig. Let's wait until November and see if I say that same thing about UGA this year. Either way, that won't be a "rebuilding" excuse, it will be a "lack of coaching and preparedness" excuse.

Bama hasn't had to "rebuild" anything since 2007. Ask any fan, of any team, anywhere, outside of Tuscaloosa. It's a nice word to use when things don't work out the way you want, but I guess being a Bama fan of the greatest dynasty in the history of CFB has caused a convoluted disillusionment of the world that the rest of us live in.

Hey, it was your words, not mine. And it WAS a rebuilding year. Rebuilding can have a totally different meaning depending on context. It depends on your standards. 99% of teams would literally kill to have the success Bama had last year. It is yet to be determined if UGA is in the same situation.
Edit to add… I made comments about it being a rebuilding year before the first game of the year.

 

[RTR...USN (ret)]

Serious question @OldDevilDawg , how could you lose the following list of award winners (including 3 of the TOP 5 Heisman Finalists) and it not be a rebuilding year? And before you post it, I know UGA had similar success last year so the same would apply to your Dawgs this year.

2020 Alabama Football Player and Coach Awards​

• Heisman Trophy – DeVonta Smith
• Maxwell Award – DeVonta Smith
• AP Player of the Year – DeVonta Smith
• Walter Camp Player of the Year – DeVonta Smith
• Johnny Unitas Golden Arm Award – Mac Jones
• Davey O’Brien Award – Mac Jones
• Joe Moore Award – Alabama Crimson Tide Offensive Line
• Paul Hornung Award – DeVonta Smith
• Outland Trophy – Alex Leatherwood
• Fred Biletnikoff Award – DeVonta Smith
• Rimington Trophy – Landon Dickerson
• Doak Walker Award – Najee Harris
• Broyles Award – Steve Sarkisian

 

[TechRaiderRider]

Serious question @OldDevilDawg , how could you lose the following list of award winners (including 3 of the TOP 5 Heisman Finalists) and it not be a rebuilding year? And before you post it, I know UGA had similar success last year so the same would apply to your Dawgs this year.

2020 Alabama Football Player and Coach Awards​

• Heisman Trophy – DeVonta Smith
• Maxwell Award – DeVonta Smith
• AP Player of the Year – DeVonta Smith
• Walter Camp Player of the Year – DeVonta Smith
• Johnny Unitas Golden Arm Award – Mac Jones
• Davey O’Brien Award – Mac Jones
• Joe Moore Award – Alabama Crimson Tide Offensive Line
• Paul Hornung Award – DeVonta Smith
• Outland Trophy – Alex Leatherwood
• Fred Biletnikoff Award – DeVonta Smith
• Rimington Trophy – Landon Dickerson
• Doak Walker Award – Najee Harris
• Broyles Award – Steve Sarkisian

umm, one guy is listed six times -

 

[RTR...USN (ret)]

umm, one guy is listed six times -

Yes. He is.

 

[Toadman005]

Yes. He is.

And as amazing, I'd still say he is 2nd or 3rd best receiver of the Saban era.