Christopher Lane Foote. The best inside joke?

[Preacherman]

 

[CollegeFBFan2021]

View attachment 5492

Brigham Young failed to secure the Belt. A Belt is what legitimizes a title. U.C.L.A. secured it, how? By beating Miami, FL. In the Fiesta Bowl. 39-37 if memory serves. Probably a hotly contested game I'm assuming went down to the wire. U.C.L.A. therefore deservedly claimed a Belt NC.
But they also lost three games. Oregon, Stanford and Nebraska (reverse sequential).
I think time has served to validate U.C.L.A.
At the time those losses were seen as too damaging to validate U.C.L.A.'s title claim.
You can make your own opinion. Nebraska routed U.C.L.A. 46-3, I believe it was. In Pasadena! Likely a statement game for Nebraska, except for two losses (two losses removes any team from consideration).
Brigham Young defeated Utah, 24-14.
Utah was 6-5-1. Rather pedestrian, but roughly comparable to Washington St.
Both Utah and Washington St. played Tennessee. In Knoxville. Both lost. Barely.
Tennessee was 7-4-1. So Tennessee was clearly superior but not demonstrably so.
My point being it's possible, maybe UNLIKELY but possible if played in SLC, Utah wins BOTH games and finished 8-4-1.
Which is what Iowa actually WAS.
But, I don't live in hypothetical-land. I live in reality. Reality tells me Brigham Young was 2/3 schedule-wise a nation champion. Insufficient and incapable independently.
Iowa was 8-4-1. Clearly incapable, independently. Together (composite) they are 11-1-1. More than capable. Possible.
Colorado actually claimed a NC with that record, so I'm not simply blowing smoke.
So. A Championship that includes Brigham Young also necessarily includes Iowa.
Who, incidentally played to a tie, seven years later. In the Holiday Bowl. Brigham Young missed an extra point that might have won it. Washington won the Rose Bowl.
Michigan was Iowa's only loss that season.
Both teams (Brigham Young in the 1984 Holiday Bowl, Iowa in a title pairing, following 1984) defeated Michigan. Iowa best Texas, 55-17 in the Freedom Bowl.
Chuck Long set a record. T.D. passes scored.
Brigham Young scored two touchdowns against Michigan who had (prior to Holiday) only allowed six. Including one that iced it.
Texas was a legitimate title contender. Again only 7-4-1. Brigham Young played U.C.L.A. in Pasadena before 1984 and beat 7-4-1 Bruins. And they defeated Missouri in the Holiday Bowl. 20-17. Illinois was 10-2. Losses to Missouri, and to U.C.L.A.
Am I wrong to put BYU ahead of Illinois?
I.D.T.S. meaning BYU effectively won a Rose Bowl leading into 1984 against U.C.L.A. As a (effectively) Big Ten Champion. F.W.I.W.
And, in 1984, defeated Michigan 24-17 (Michigan was 6-5 heading into it) Holiday.
Iowa and Brigham Young share a Championship. Co-champions. In 1984.
Tulane shared a NC with Tennessee in 1988.
Utah shared one with Auburn in 2004. Utah shared one with Florida in 2008. They aren't especially uncommon, but unusual.
People probably question how an 8-4-1 team could claim any part of a NC. Ordinarily they couldn't. But in 1984 circumstances were especially unusual. Together, BYU and Iowa share a legitimate national championship.
UCF can't claim 2017 without help, either.
Strangely, it appears it's Iowa in that circumstance, also. Or Iowa State.
But in 2017 the Belt Champion was Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh was 5-7. It would have helped immensely if Pittsburgh were admitted in place of Miami, FL to the ACC Championship. But they weren't. Leaving that particular NC in limbo as far as certification. Unfortunately, they didn't.
Oh. Brigham Young win a Belt in 1996. In the Cotton Bowl against Kansas St. 19-15.
It's the only New Year's Day (apart from the Florida Citrus Bowl) BYU has ever played in.

 

[CollegeFBFan2021]

I think your ideas are nonsense.... but never pointless as ultimately I just read your posts and snicker to myself.

Still waiting on the charts.

Yeah New York Times is nonsense. Dude you need a major reality check. I don't use charts. But as far as making a written history, that's easily done. What a jerk, though. . I do all the arithmetic and you sit idly by doing nothing and make comments about whether you will accept anything I do as legitimate. You review the New York Times? You admit you don't or won't read anything beyond the first paragraph.
You're not waiting for a flowchart. You're sitting on your dead ass waiting for me to say something stupid which I probably will, so you can pounce on it. Here's my advice.
Do something more important. I don't care if you read anything at all. Remain ignorant. That's really some thing to be proud of! Hey everyone! I'm an ignoramus! I don't read and I never admit when I'm wrong. I'm impressed. That's really something to be proud of. Don't read, don't learn. Terrific.

 

[Bama Believer]

@FQ_Caroline do you get it now ?

 

[CollegeFBFan2021]

@FQ_Caroline do you get it now ?

I hope everyone gets it quite frankly. People can't choose a national champion. That's not what a national champion is. Popularity isn't relevant. A team either cuts the mustard or it doesn't. It's kind of funny how I'm being criticized for things I'm not directly part of.
I will admit I promote these methods. But they aren't mine, and I didn't invent any. As far as Caroline, makes no difference to me whether she's on board with any of it.
Don't use it. It's kind of dumb not to. Because they use elements that ought to apply anyway. They aren't hard to follow. A lazy person might not like it. There's a lot of lazy-ass people I guess. It includes many people here. They want everything to be done for them. A sense of entitlement I guess. It doesn't matter to me. I know what I'm doing. It's sad in a way because you guys want to destroy college football.
Go ahead! Destroy it. But don't come complaining to me after you've destroyed it
Ask Caroline what exactly? It doesn't matter.

 

[Tenn"cock]

Yeah New York Times is nonsense. Dude you need a major reality check. I don't use charts. But as far as making a written history, that's easily done. What a jerk, though. . I do all the arithmetic and you sit idly by doing nothing and make comments about whether you will accept anything I do as legitimate. You review the New York Times? You admit you don't or won't read anything beyond the first paragraph.
You're not waiting for a flowchart. You're sitting on your dead ass waiting for me to say something stupid which I probably will, so you can pounce on it. Here's my advice.
Do something more important. I don't care if you read anything at all. Remain ignorant. That's really some thing to be proud of! Hey everyone! I'm an ignoramus! I don't read and I never admit when I'm wrong. I'm impressed. That's really something to be proud of. Don't read, don't learn. Terrific.

1st bolded - Sooo you are telling me this is a system the New York Times came up with? Then link it so I can see if someone who knows how to lay out an actual system has done so beyond the diatribe you seem to be making up on the fly.

2nd bolded - Apparently not, since you do not seem to be able to convey this system in a logical, analytical way.

3rd bolded - LOL .... are you asking for help? Because I can see why you need someone to make sense of what you post.

4th bolded - No, actually if you posted something that actually made sense I would give you some input.

You seem to forget we went back and forth on Rivals, for about a week, over your bullshit and I just gave up when you started spouting stupidity like your views on OT games... do you remember what you told me about those? Do yourself a favor, and stop trying to use obscure ideas just because it makes your dick hard to think you have actually come up with something worth promoting.

 

[Bama Believer]

I hope everyone gets it quite frankly. People can't choose a national champion. That's not what a national champion is. Popularity isn't relevant. A team either cuts the mustard or it doesn't. It's kind of funny how I'm being criticized for things I'm not directly part of.
I will admit I promote these methods. But they aren't mine, and I didn't invent any. As far as Caroline, makes no difference to me whether she's on board with any of it.
Don't use it. It's kind of dumb not to. Because they use elements that ought to apply anyway. They aren't hard to follow. A lazy person might not like it. There's a lot of lazy-ass people I guess. It includes many people here. They want everything to be done for them. A sense of entitlement I guess. It doesn't matter to me. I know what I'm doing. It's sad in a way because you guys want to destroy college football.
Go ahead! Destroy it. But don't come complaining to me after you've destroyed it
Ask Caroline what exactly? It doesn't matter.

I was making a joke to a former girlfriend the other day and told her I had become a lazy sob lately, she told me I wasnt lazy at all, just chill, and chill is something the world needed more of, I took it as a compliment.

 

[tinp]

I hope everyone gets it quite frankly. People can't choose a national champion. That's not what a national champion is. Popularity isn't relevant. A team either cuts the mustard or it doesn't. It's kind of funny how I'm being criticized for things I'm not directly part of.
I will admit I promote these methods. But they aren't mine, and I didn't invent any. As far as Caroline, makes no difference to me whether she's on board with any of it.
Don't use it. It's kind of dumb not to. Because they use elements that ought to apply anyway. They aren't hard to follow. A lazy person might not like it. There's a lot of lazy-ass people I guess. It includes many people here. They want everything to be done for them. A sense of entitlement I guess. It doesn't matter to me. I know what I'm doing. It's sad in a way because you guys want to destroy college football.
Go ahead! Destroy it. But don't come complaining to me after you've destroyed it
Ask Caroline what exactly? It doesn't matter.

DON'T YOU DARE DISRESPECT CAROLINE !!!

 

[CollegeFBFan2021]

DON'T YOU DARE DISRESPECT CAROLINE !!!

Dude I don't even know who she is. In fact I doubt I ever will. The point I am making is thar unless someone can show me why my method sucks, assuming someone can, it really makes no difference what Caroline or George Washington thinks of it. It works. It's simple, it isn't hard to follow, and it's fair. And it gives the desired result. Fairly easily. Why should I care if Caroline isn't interested?

 

[CollegeFBFan2021]

I was making a joke to a former girlfriend the other day and told her I had become a lazy sob lately, she told me I wasnt lazy at all, just chill, and chill is something the world needed more of, I took it as a compliment.

No she was right the first time I think. I doubt she was looking to compliment you. But admittedly I wouldn't know. I couldn't say. But as far as winning a championship, I personally don't want lazy asses taking over.
Isn't that what it boils down to?
Hey, we would have beaten so-and-so except out pantyhose hit caught in out underwear.
Oh! O.K. I guess we better not count it, then. Guy weren't trying when you lost!
Yeah, right. Tell that to the person stupid enough to believe than insanity. And even if it makes sense, it doesn't change anything. I never did like cheaters. I doubt I'm alone. Usually when you lose its because the other team handed your ass to you on a sling. Rarely it's because you weren't prepared. So quit making excuses.

 

[Bama Believer]

No she was right the first time I think. I doubt she was looking to compliment you. But admittedly I wouldn't know. I couldn't say. But as far as winning a championship, I personally don't want lazy asses taking over.
Isn't that what it boils down to?
Hey, we would have beaten so-and-so except out pantyhose hit caught in out underwear.
Oh! O.K. I guess we better not count it, then. Guy weren't trying when you lost!
Yeah, right. Tell that to the person stupid enough to believe than insanity. And even if it makes sense, it doesn't change anything. I never did like cheaters. I doubt I'm alone. Usually when you lose its because the other team handed your ass to you on a sling. Rarely it's because you weren't prepared. So quit making excuses.

I dont care if you call me lazy for not buying in to your relative proficiency bullshit, we all have opinions and I dont force mine on anybody, (like you try to do), but when you group me in on those that made an excuse for the Utah loss, that rattles my chain a bit, congrats on doing that, it isnt easy, nevertheless, I will respond with this, I have never made an excuse for losing a game, I always congratulate the winner and move on. I DARE you to go back through my posts here and at the other board and find any of my post that would prove that statement otherwise, I'll wait, btw, I started posting over there in 08, just to give you some reference.. I'll wait,

 

[CollegeFBFan2021]

1st bolded - Sooo you are telling me this is a system the New York Times came up with? Then link it so I can see if someone who knows how to lay out an actual system has done so beyond the diatribe you seem to be making up on the fly.

2nd bolded - Apparently not, since you do not seem to be able to convey this system in a logical, analytical way.

3rd bolded - LOL .... are you asking for help? Because I can see why you need someone to make sense of what you post.

4th bolded - No, actually if you posted something that actually made sense I would give you some input.

You seem to forget we went back and forth on Rivals, for about a week, over your bullshit and I just gave up when you started spouting stupidity like your views on OT games... do you remember what you told me about those? Do yourself a favor, and stop trying to use obscure ideas just because it makes your dick hard to think you have actually come up with something worth promoting.

Yeah I do and that's relevant information. Actually you are I'll equipped to debate me on overtime. But try if you will. Like everything else you will lose. Overtime proved a lot of things actually. It isn't regulation. It shouldn't count as a regulation win because it obviously ISN'T. And it also told me it's a legitimate way to settle a pissing contest, but nothing else. Thats not all. G-5 vs. G-5 was 50% as expected. P-5 vs. P-5 was 50%. But P-5 vs. G-5 wasn't. Overtime proved that teams in G-5 are outmanned 2/1. That was unexpected. But important information nevertheless.
I'm not sure what else you are asking me. Whether I need help? No. I don't. I pretty much have thid covered. Do I work for the New York Times? Nope. Never said I did. Can I explain the protocol? Actually I already have. You just weren't listening. Does it work as expected? Well it gives what I consider to be the correct result. Is it something I've marketed? No. Never wanted to. Because..........it already existed! I didn't think it necessary to reinvent the wheel. Does it give a reliable result? Yes I think so.
What else were you complaining about? That the NCAA doesn't interpret IT the same? Actually, they DO. So. What else were you trying to prove false? That I lied? Nope.

 

[CollegeFBFan2021]

I dont care if you call me lazy for not buying in to your relative proficiency bullshit, we all have opinions and I dont force mine on anybody, (like you try to do), but when you group me in on those that made an excuse for the Utah loss, that rattles my chain a bit, congrats on doing that, it isnt easy, nevertheless, I will respond with this, I have never made an excuse for losing a game, I always congratulate the winner and move on. I DARE you to go back through my posts here and at the other board and find any of my post that would prove that statement otherwise, I'll wait, btw, I started posting over there in 08, just to give you some reference.. I'll wait,

I don't remember accusing anyone I just thought it a little strange a person would try to pretend a game in the Sugar Bowl (any game) is some kind of booby prize. I don't remember accusing you, in particular, regardless. I never played university. I don't know what goes on behind the scenes. I don't know if the team gets together. Hey guys, were done. Let's take this week off.
How would I know? I just think it's a weak way to lose. Not giving a shit if its not a NC
That's a spoiled brat in my opinion. Quit.
I mean tell everyone if it's a team decision that you aren't going to play your best. I think if you did that a lot more people would respect you than if you play to lose. I'm not sure what else to say about it. Life is short.
I'm sure your grandchildren will all live to hear about the time you simply quit trying. To me, it's irrelevant. The way I look at it us if you weren't trying you lost, anyway. As if quitting makes a loss into some kind of win?
More likely you were caught napping. That's a more reasonable explanation. I buy that. But I think everyone is tired of the excuses.

 

[Hard2Bluff]

I dont care if you call me lazy for not buying in to your relative proficiency bullshit, we all have opinions and I dont force mine on anybody, (like you try to do), but when you group me in on those that made an excuse for the Utah loss, that rattles my chain a bit, congrats on doing that, it isnt easy, nevertheless, I will respond with this, I have never made an excuse for losing a game, I always congratulate the winner and move on. I DARE you to go back through my posts here and at the other board and find any of my post that would prove that statement otherwise, I'll wait, btw, I started posting over there in 08, just to give you some reference.. I'll wait,

 

[Tenn"cock]

Yeah I do and that's relevant information. Actually you are I'll equipped to debate me on overtime. But try if you will. Like everything else you will lose. Overtime proved a lot of things actually. It isn't regulation. It shouldn't count as a regulation win because it obviously ISN'T. And it also told me it's a legitimate way to settle a pissing contest, but nothing else. Thats not all. G-5 vs. G-5 was 50% as expected. P-5 vs. P-5 was 50%. But P-5 vs. G-5 wasn't. Overtime proved that teams in G-5 are outmanned 2/1. That was unexpected. But important information nevertheless.
I'm not sure what else you are asking me. Whether I need help? No. I don't. I pretty much have thid covered. Do I work for the New York Times? Nope. Never said I did.

Can I explain the protocol? Actually I already have. You just weren't listening. Does it work as expected?

Well it gives what I consider to be the correct result. Is it something I've marketed? No. Never wanted to. Because..........it already existed! I didn't think it necessary to reinvent the wheel. Does it give a reliable result? Yes I think so.
What else were you complaining about? That the NCAA doesn't interpret IT the same? Actually, they DO. So. What else were you trying to prove false? That I lied? Nope.

Ohhhh my. ROFL

1st bolded - Hardly lol

2nd bolded - everything in front of this line is more diatribe. Also, It was a rhetorical question since your statement was nonsense.

3rd bolded - I never claimed you did and the fact that you think I did illustrates your flawed thinking processes.

4th bolded - No you did not and will continue to not since I am beginning to doubt you even know what your trying to explain.

5th bolded - Where? provide the link showing where it already existed. I would love to see what flawed method you took and bastardized into creating what you wanted the results to be.

6th bolded - Link?

I'll hang up and listen.

 

[tinp]

Dude I don't even know who she is. In fact I doubt I ever will. The point I am making is thar unless someone can show me why my method sucks, assuming someone can, it really makes no difference what Caroline or George Washington thinks of it. It works. It's simple, it isn't hard to follow, and it's fair. And it gives the desired result. Fairly easily. Why should I care if Caroline isn't interested?

My name is There IsNo Place. I am 4 - 8 years old. I live near Desperado Fences. You can find me directly or you can call or text me, and we can discuss any grievances there, not here, in PERSON. Posters who want to make insultin comments can do it directly to me in person, without having to cower behind MAMA in MAMA's house. You can come here, and tell me in PERSON what you think about me, in my skinny jeans. Cool?

 

[Hard2Bluff]

My name is There IsNo Place. I am 4 - 8 years old. I live near Desperado Fences. You can find me directly or you can call or text me, and we can discuss any grievances there, not here, in PERSON. Posters who want to make insultin comments can do it directly to me in person, without having to cower behind MAMA in MAMA's house. You can come here, and tell me in PERSON what you think about me, in my skinny jeans. Cool?

I suddenly got a craving for pizza rolls.

 

[tinp]

I suddenly got a craving for pizza rolls.

 

[Hard2Bluff]

I suddenly lost my craving for pizza rolls.

 

[CollegeFBFan2021]

My name is There IsNo Place. I am 4 - 8 years old. I live near Desperado Fences. You can find me directly or you can call or text me, and we can discuss any grievances there, not here, in PERSON. Posters who want to make insultin comments can do it directly to me in person, without having to cower behind MAMA in MAMA's house. You can come here, and tell me in PERSON what you think about me, in my skinny jeans. Cool?

Hello, Larry. That is your real name I assume. Mama's dead, in case you were wondering. I did in fact live in Mama's house. But I no longer do. She's been dead a considerable length of time. I'm fifty-two. I try not to aggravate people. Some try to make me into something bad. I am not bad. But I don't like being told I'm an idiot. If you want to reach me you sure can, Larry.