Conspiracy thread

Toadman005 said:
I want to live a quiet, peaceful life and raise my daughter. But I can’t ignore the world on fire encroaching me.

We’re not all built of your quality, marine. I wish I was the man I was, now, at 18. I’d still be half the man you are but, at least I’d be useful.
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I disagree, sir. You want a quiet and peaceful life for your daughter to grow up in. Every one of us have a fight in us that no one wants to awaken. Put in the right/wrong situation, you would be as relentless a warrior as any Medal of Honor recipient ever.
 
OldDevilDawg said:
I disagree, sir. You want a quiet and peaceful life for your daughter to grow up in. Every one of us have a fight in us that no one wants to awaken. Put in the right/wrong situation, you would be as relentless a warrior as any Medal of Honor recipient ever.
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Kind of you to say, but I know you’re built of better stuff. Don’t get me wrong. I’m grade A material. Just means you and those of your cloth are the rarest which deserve to be held in praise.

To the point though, I really do fear we’re (America, society, the political system, etc) at at impasse. As it’s too abstract for too many, until “shit gets real”, as in, actual violence, and, that means from “our side” (not the lunatic left), nothing changes. Maybe I am cynicism saying it’ll take a revolution … but I think half the country, snd, the more entitled, emotional, radical and v(ile)iolent half…think it’s a game where they can’t lose, it’s just how to win. We may have to change that perception.
 
Toadman005 said:
Kind of you to say, but I know you’re built of better stuff. Don’t get me wrong. I’m grade A material. Just means you and those of your cloth are the rarest which deserve to be held in praise.
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Read closely you cartoon drawing nerd. I was a senior in high school. Book reading, chess club, blind date to my senior prom nerd from hell. I was eating lunch one day with a friend that had joined the Marine Corps. He was trying to get me to join with him. A guy sitting at the next table over, eavesdropping suddenly said, "Don't try it, you ain't man enough". I thought about that for days. I did it....I joined. I didn't do it to prove him wrong, I did it because I needed to find out the answer for myself. I had to dig in hard to find the perseverance to succeed, but I found out I could be man enough to be one of the "Few and the Proud". Having the balls to challenge myself made me into the person you are trying to revere. I'm not built out of better stuff. I'm just built out of trying to build me better.
Toadman005 said:
To the point though, I really do fear we’re (America, society, the political system, etc) at at impasse. As it’s too abstract for too many, until “shit gets real”, as in, actual violence, and, that means from “our side” (not the lunatic left), nothing changes. Maybe I am cynicism saying it’ll take a revolution … but I think half the country, snd, the more entitled, emotional, radical and v(ile)iolent half…think it’s a game where they can’t lose, it’s just how to win. We may have to change that perception.
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Turn off the media, do it now. The shit you worry about is what they tell you to worry about. I had these same thoughts 30 years ago. Once I realized that nothing changes, I started working on my response to protect my world. That's where I found my peace with DC.
 
@Toadman005

Everybody is built different. Differing strengths and weaknesses.
But I do agree with society being at the crossroads. Will Trump and Co. be able to push it all thru and make the change the majority want? Time will tell.

But something @OldDevilDawg can identify with. I too served. Swearing the oath, and wearing the uniform does change things.
Would my perspectives be different if I had stayed a civilian? Prolly. But things are as they are.
 
Toadman005 said:
I believe he died in Argentina many years after WW2.
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I am really unsure he made it to Argentina although I believe he left Berlin. He had a lot of health problems and was a meth addict. I just don't know if he would have survived going across the pond in a diesel boat. Folks say that it was impossible, but I point out that of the top ten Nazis left in Berlin, at least eight made it out via the ratline.
 
batchaps4me said:
I am really unsure he made it to Argentina although I believe he left Berlin. He had a lot of health problems and was a meth addict. I just don't know if he would have survived going across the pond in a diesel boat. Folks say that it was impossible, but I point out that of the top ten Nazis left in Berlin, at least eight made it out via the ratline.
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The US helped numerous Nazis make it to Argentina. We needed them to insure our rocket program was stronger than the Soviet Union. I have read in multiple places that Hitler fathered 2 daughters after he got to Argentina.
 
OldDevilDawg said:
The US helped numerous Nazis make it to Argentina. We needed them to insure our rocket program was stronger than the Soviet Union. I have read in multiple places that Hitler fathered 2 daughters after he got to Argentina.
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Operation Paperclip oversaw that, at least parts of it. We got some of them to SA and then "recruited" them. Grey Wolf is a good read and has a documentary based on his book.
 
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Hard2Bluff said:
If you watch the full episode, this guy went to hundreds of towns in Argentina with hundred of thousands of Nazi descendants living in South America that only speak German and are isolated from the rest of the country. Zero assimilation.

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I have watched that episode a couple of times. There is the same thing in Chile, IIRC. Bavarian villages.
 
Guys, this guy doesn't present or defend any conspiracy theories but is very informative with the facts and lets you decide:
 
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