End of 2020 Season Top 25

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1- Alabama [13-0]
2- Coastal Carolina [11-1]
3- BYU [11-1]
4- Louisiana [10-1]
5- Liberty [10-1]
6- Clemson [10-2]
7- Notre Dame [10-2]
8- Texas A&M [9-1]
9- Cincinnati [9-1]
10- Oklahoma [9-2]
11- Iowa State [9-3]
12- Appalachian State [9-3]
13- Army [9-3]
14- Georgia [8-2]
15- Ball State [7-1]
16- San Jose State [7-1]
17- Ohio State [7-1]
18- Oklahoma State [8-3]
19- Miami-FL [8-3]
20- Memphis [8-3]
21- Northwestern [7-2]
22- Nevada [7-2]
23- Buffalo [6-1]
24- North Carolina [8-4]
25- NC State [8-4]

Of all the seasons there have ever been, this was one of them.

The list may look screwy, but if you want it to look less screwy for your team then I suggest your team win their games.

Win-Loss
Head-to-Head (if more than once, then winner of Conference Championship/Bowl game rematch gets nod)
Schedule Difference (Automatic -20 for non-FBS opponents)

Congratulations to Alabama who ends 2020 as the only undefeated team.

Ohio State was either gonna win and finish at #1, because nothing is better than undefeated or they were gonna lose and wind up in 17th, ranking just behind Ball State and San Jose State who played each other for the tiebreaker.

May the 2021 season be something worth watching.

Good night, everybody.
 
Not sure what your metric is, but it prioritises wins. Thats something I like, too. I wouldnt likely have a G-5 ranked disproportinately high, but I applaud your tenacity in having measured by a standard we can either adhere to, or explain away as ridiculous psycho-babble. Brigham Young, in my estimation, was the closest. The committee largely dismissed them. Coastal Carolina disappointed. Liberty came the closest. But lost to N. Carolina St. Sadly. Would have liked them in a title game vs. OSU. F.W.I.W.
 
CowpokeU said:
Texas Tech at #5 is the greatest thing ever.
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Liberty? Oh, well. Texas Tech seems to be on the upswing, too. I think they will be a formidable opponent, moving forward. I know I already mentioned this, but it bears repeating. In 2017, in a bowl pairing against the Red Raiders, Charlie Strong (USF) secured a measure of the Belt. It was the share Oklahoma relinquished. Or, I suppose we could give it back, but I like the idea of Iowa St. reclaiming it, after having beaten Oklahoma. It was cycled through the Big XII (W. Virginia, Texas, Texas Tech). USF beat T.T. I think it was the Independence Bowl. Anyway, it then cycled through the American (Houston, S. Methodist, Memphis) and UCF claimed it (a full measure, in fact). In 2018. After beating Memphis. And played L.S.U. PlayStation Fiesta Bowl. L.S.U. secured by beating UCF. A Belt. (1/4). Along with Ohio St., Alabama and Penn St. Securing a Belt is a measure of supremacy. L.S.U. went on to win CFP. Which united the Belt. Its been united since. Alabama is the Belt Champion. CFP recognises it. Its included in the motive. It has Belt connections through and through. Loopholes, I guess.
 
Texas Tech was 4-7, right? They have no business being ranked, anywhere (at least nowhere near the top-25). And, at this point I want to lodge a complaint. Rankings should be reflective of a teams condition against the spread. It isnt about opinion. And it never ought to be, either. Youre either cutting it, or you arent. Another point to mention, worth considering. It takes time to develop a program. We all live in the moment. Without considering the past. Alabama isnt exceptional because of Nick Saban. Sorry to break the news, but its a fact. Jeremy Pruitt didnt establish Tennessee as a football powerhouse, either. They moved it forward. Put Saban at New Mexico State. Or Temple. He didnt last as a professional head coach. In fact, he was gone after two seasons there. And came running home to Mama. Nobodys convincing me hes an excdptional coach. Because he isnt. Hes a motivator. A salesman. At Alabama. Thats his Mama.
 
CollegeFBFan2021 said:
Texas Tech was 4-7, right? They have no business being ranked, anywhere (at least nowhere near the top-25). And, at this point I want to lodge a complaint. Rankings should be reflective of a teams condition against the spread. It isnt about opinion. And it never ought to be, either. Youre either cutting it, or you arent. Another point to mention, worth considering. It takes time to develop a program. We all live in the moment. Without considering the past. Alabama isnt exceptional because of Nick Saban. Sorry to break the news, but its a fact. Jeremy Pruitt didnt establish Tennessee as a football powerhouse, either. They moved it forward. Put Saban at New Mexico State. Or Temple. He didnt last as a professional head coach. In fact, he was gone after two seasons there. And came running home to Mama. Nobodys convincing me hes an excdptional coach. Because he isnt. Hes a motivator. A salesman. At Alabama. Thats his Mama.
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Ya know what? I think ODD was right in his call about you.
 
LyquidMetal said:
Ya know what? I think ODD was right in his call about you.
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Maybe. Alabama wasnt relevant prior to Nick Saban? Who, by the way, left L.S.U. for the N.F.L. Hes clearly not exceptional. You dont get fired from a job if you are. Hes done wonderfully at Mamas. I defy anyone. Anywhere to tell me differently. Mama came calling and he ran home with his tail between his legs. Thats my recollection. An excellent hire? Sure. I went to Colorado. Theres tradition, there, too. I think they are hiring the wrong people. I wasnt crazy about Bill McaCartney. He wouldnt have been my first choice. You build a bridge. Thats what hiring is. A bridge to the next century. Otherwise its a stop-gap. Saban couldnt cut it in the N.F.L. He was thrown out on his ass. And Mama came calling. Calling Lil Nicky home. Hes been home since.
 
CollegeFBFan2021 said:
Maybe. Alabama wasnt relevant prior to Nick Saban? Who, by the way, left L.S.U. for the N.F.L. Hes clearly not exceptional. You dont get fired from a job if you are. Hes done wonderfully at Mamas. I defy anyone. Anywhere to tell me differently. Mama came calling and he ran home with his tail between his legs. Thats my recollection. An excellent hire? Sure. I went to Colorado. Theres tradition, there, too. I think they are hiring the wrong people. I wasnt crazy about Bill McaCartney. He wouldnt have been my first choice. You build a bridge. Thats what hiring is. A bridge to the next century. Otherwise its a stop-gap. Saban couldnt cut it in the N.F.L. He was thrown out on his ass. And Mama came calling. Calling Lil Nicky home. Hes been home since.
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Sour grapes about the Nicktator? Tsk tsk. Not a good look.
 
TechRaiderRider said:
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all yall bitches
just quit yer cryin
and wring out them
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tech gonna spank dat ass -

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LyquidMetal said:
Sour grapes about the Nicktator? Tsk tsk. Not a good look.
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Im telling it like it is. At least the way I remember it being at the time. I could be wrong. I usually am. Some said it was because Drew Brees wasnt signed to the Dolphins, who were my favorite professional football team who Nick Saban ran through the wringer. Autocrats have great field vision. Adolf Hitler was succesful. But eventually he was defeated by superior tactician. And time honered time tested field strategy. Saban will lose. Maybe not tomorrow. But there are too many field generals out there. I would go on. Saban is defying the odds. Possibly has some operative taking careful notes, a la Billy Beane did. I suspect something fishy because I dont think Saban is especially smart. I dont think hes cheating. Mike Locksley was a great recruiter. At New Mexico but was run out of town on a rail for personal misconduct. Actually the entire Alabama crew looks like an AA assemblage. People with skeletons getting rehab. Its working. But its shady. Lane Kiffin?
 
CollegeFBFan2021 said:
Im telling it like it is. At least the way I remember it being at the time. I could be wrong. I usually am. Some said it was because Drew Brees wasnt signed to the Dolphins, who were my favorite professional football team who Nick Saban ran through the wringer. Autocrats have great field vision. Adolf Hitler was succesful. But eventually he was defeated by superior tactician. And time honered time tested field strategy. Saban will lose. Maybe not tomorrow. But there are too many field generals out there. I would go on. Saban is defying the odds. Possibly has some operative taking careful notes, a la Billy Beane did. I suspect something fishy because I dont think Saban is especially smart. I dont think hes cheating. Mike Locksley was a great recruiter. At New Mexico but was run out of town on a rail for personal misconduct. Actually the entire Alabama crew looks like an AA assemblage. People with skeletons getting rehab. Its working. But its shady. Lane Kiffin?
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hitler was a bad dude -
and he ran a buncha bad boys -
 
TechRaiderRider said:
hitler was a bad dude -
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Yeah. But Im willing to be he didnt think so. I didnt mean to compare Saban to Hitler. The simple fact is Saban takes cast-offs and rejects, does something to reinvigorate them. It isnt all that different than Alcoholics Anonymous. Im willing to bet some of Hitlers strongest adherents were strange people, too. Its not an indcitment against Saban. Where I live there are alcoholics. Sadly. Its a disease. Again, sadly. Bill McCartney was an alcoholic with a vicious temper. So was his wife. Im a recovering addict. Not alcohol. Pornography. I attend meetings meant to help. Saban is taking in rejects and cast_offs and rehabilitating them. Adolf Hitler took in rejects and cast offs. The entire Nazi movement was one of extremism. Sure, the motives were different. But I see similarities. Wiat is Alabama if it isnt the extremism as applied to technique meant to suajugate the rest of society? Thats not capitalism. Thats Marxist.
 
Kace-1 said:
Well this just took a turn.
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You know what Karl Marx did, I presume? He eradicated any obsevance of Deity, and replaced it with the State. Marxism is about paying tribute to the status quo without incentive to build upon expansion or benefit beyond those already in command, the radical left. The extremists. The State. There are earmarks of it. Blind rubmission to it, the people surrovmding it and their caule call. Supression and annhilation of anything other than to the State. Blind devotion regardless of cause or moral imperitive. Call me crazy if you want, that resembles Nick Sabans approach. No outside influence and everything meant to defend the status quo. To the detriment of everyone else. And if it isnt Marxist, what is it? Free Capitalism?
 
Kace-1 said:
...This is about football.
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I think so. It would seem that Sabbn, good man that he is, is working the system to his advantage. I will try to be fair in my appraisal of the situation at hand. It might not be cheating. It might be permissible. I probably wouldnt do it, but simply because I wouldnt doesnt necessarily mean its unethical. Hes tipping his hand to his own benefit. Making sure he has the best players stacked at every position is sound strategy. People ought to replicate it. But its competitively Marxist by priority. Nobody saw a Beautiful Mind? It dealt precisely with this issue. The scene where Nash was contemplating econ6ic theory. He realizes the bert, most ethical and sound business strategy isnt simply to make yourself happy, although thats essential marketing strategy. The best result comes from doing whats best for the group. Saban is addressing part of it. Actually to be fair, he isnt the comissioner of N.C.A.A. Thats not his job. But the best marketing strategy mayimizes perfosmance accross the board. Saban has upped the ante. Hes not bluffing and hes cashing in. Now, other teams need to follow his example. Im not complaininG. Its good to have at least one dominating presence. Thats called a trend. It makes things simpler to analyze. But its volatile. The Belt swithed hands several times, all SEC. That says there is comparability. Thats reflective of a healthy conference. The trend ought to follow, meaning more teams, not fewer, challenging for a championship. Thanks in no small part to Nick Saban. Adam Smith said competition makes a champion. But he forgot about cooperation. Like BYU sharing a title with Iowa. Still a valid titie claim. Without diminishing it or the Championship Belt.
 
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