It was a loss for them AND a win for them.
No. I don't really think Trump wins unless the regime falls. I said from the start I would not have gone in because I thought it would be more difficult and would take longer to topple the regime than the administration thought. I also thought the odds of this harming the economy and harming the Republicans' chances in the midterm were far too great.
You say they won the stalemate. Maybe. Their economy was already in big trouble and now its much much worse. They were also shown to be weak in front of their own people.......their propaganda for years had been that they were making Iran strong/were standing up to Israel/America, etc.
It doesn't mater how bad we've fucked them up. If they can wreck us too, it's a double KO. They can't "win" in the sense that they come out better from this. But they can take us down with them, and die happy. That is where we are.
I have issues with that train of thought. The reason we are in the current situation with Iran is that all of the politicians worried more about the midterms than Iran getting a nuke and nothing gets done. Pick the more important issue at hand, midterms or dealing with Iran and stick with it.
Getting re-elected should never be on the table when making decisions on long term foreign policy.... but, alas, they are politicians with somebody's dick in their hands, whether it's theirs or surgically implemented....
Agreed, but, pragmatically, Trump should realize literally everything good he has done will be immediately reversed if the democrats retake power. And their abiolity to make things go bad can be immediate where as his efforts to make things good are slow and stagnant.
For a couple reasons I don't think this will matter in 2028. Firstly that's more than 2 years away. The Iranian regime can't hold out that long, and besides I think there will be a major economic upsurge given all the money that is being invested by companies in rebuilding our manufacturing base. The other big reason is the Republican candidate will likely be JD Vance who everybody knows, does not favor getting involved in foreign conflicts. Therefore if anybody is still PO'd about Trump getting involved in Iran, that blame will not attach to Vance.
I fear Vance is no where near as viable as many believe.
Oh I think he'll be extremely strong. The Democrats don't have anybody viable to run.
You think the MAGA base that got Trump elected will show up for Vance?
It Depends on how the economy does in the latter half of Trump's term and it depends on who the Democrats run.
Fair enough, but there is a small but growing contingency that view Vance as a puppet.
He's the Vice President. They have no power. As one former VP described it "the Vice Presidency isn't worth a bucket of warm shit".
Oh I do not deny Vance is polished. I like Vance fine enough but I worry he is not electable.
I googled that just now and nothing comes up.
That is an AI image...
It's just like Democrats, they have to create and subsidize racism to claim to stand against it.