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TechRaiderRider said:
yeah,
i can see how it would make one dizzy -
he's gotta lotta information n knowlidge
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No. You don't have to defend me. The fact is whatever the result was, we have to accept it. It would be nice, I guess if everything went as expected. But that isn't reality. I would have had difficulty with that play. It wasn't clear to me what happened. It might have been better had it been ruled an incomplete forward pass, but apparently the back judge (I'm being critiqued now for what I call an official) saw it differently.
If I've learned anything it's that life is seldom fair to anyone. Far be it from me to deny someone of something they earned.
I like Texas football. They seem to me to be the good guys in the ten gallon hats. Those are the things to hold on to. I understand why it's upsetting to some, the final verdict.
What we need to remember is this was just one stanza. Nothing lasts forever.
I like Alabama, too. They deserve their place among the hierarchy. We all need to learn to get along. I might have preferred Texas beat the Tide, but I can live with the result.
In 2010 as I recall it was Auburn taking home the title. Maybe it was time for Alabama to secure a title. It has been a long time since the Crimson Tide were top dogs.
The part I'm trying to demonstrate is hiw tough a slog it is to claim ANY championship. While it may seem easy for those being represented, it's anything but.
With respect to the Belt (something I am trying to promote) it seems many teams will have opportunity to claim a measure of it.
I'm trying my best to simply it. CFP pairings include twelve teams. I'm admitting all twelve and prioritizing the champions. That's six teams. I'm including two additional to make things fairer to everyone.
I already outlined the process. Two losses eliminate meaning BOTH Ohio St and Clemson advance (following year).
Along with Alabama, Georgia, Texas A&M, Oklahoma, Mississippi and Iowa. Those eight are teams I think ought to be prioritized. I think they deserve special recognition. I think most agree they should.
Putting tye onus on those title contenders makes the selection protocol simpler. By seasons end there should be as many as four teams left standing. This should be fun.
I'm trying to make life easier for people.
 
CollegeFBFan2021 said:
No. You don't have to defend me. The fact is whatever the result was, we have to accept it. It would be nice, I guess if everything went as expected. But that isn't reality. I would have had difficulty with that play. It wasn't clear to me what happened. It might have been better had it been ruled an incomplete forward pass, but apparently the back judge (I'm being critiqued now for what I call an official) saw it differently.
If I've learned anything it's that life is seldom fair to anyone. Far be it from me to deny someone of something they earned.
I like Texas football. They seem to me to be the good guys in the ten gallon hats. Those are the things to hold on to. I understand why it's upsetting to some, the final verdict.
What we need to remember is this was just one stanza. Nothing lasts forever.
I like Alabama, too. They deserve their place among the hierarchy. We all need to learn to get along. I might have preferred Texas beat the Tide, but I can live with the result.
In 2010 as I recall it was Auburn taking home the title. Maybe it was time for Alabama to secure a title. It has been a long time since the Crimson Tide were top dogs.
The part I'm trying to demonstrate is hiw tough a slog it is to claim ANY championship. While it may seem easy for those being represented, it's anything but.
With respect to the Belt (something I am trying to promote) it seems many teams will have opportunity to claim a measure of it.
I'm trying my best to simply it. CFP pairings include twelve teams. I'm admitting all twelve and prioritizing the champions. That's six teams. I'm including two additional to make things fairer to everyone.
I already outlined the process. Two losses eliminate meaning BOTH Ohio St and Clemson advance (following year).
Along with Alabama, Georgia, Texas A&M, Oklahoma, Mississippi and Iowa. Those eight are teams I think ought to be prioritized. I think they deserve special recognition. I think most agree they should.
Putting tye onus on those title contenders makes the selection protocol simpler. By seasons end there should be as many as four teams left standing. This should be fun.
I'm trying to make life easier for people.
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i wasn't defendin you -
 
CollegeFBFan2021 said:
Referee. That's the guy who calls it square. Oh, I didn't call him by his proper title. W/e. You're just as pathetic as everyone else I know. Get a life! I do call it square. You can't handle reality it would seem. So you blame me and anyone else who disagrees with whatever verdict you've rendered. Guess what? I like to live in a place I call, REALITY. You might like it here. It's fun. I'm the crazy one? I'm not the one trying to justify a win against an inferior team. That's REALITY. Alabama couldn't beat a Texas team with a wounded quarterback. Well, I guess they COULD, but not easily.
Yeah they really proved something didn't they? Kind of like Rock'em, Sock'em robots.
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LOL ... I literally prove you wrong without a shadow of a doubt and you very grudgingly admit it then you come back with this? ROFL

So you are both, crazy and a liar. Ok. I understand. Hey, guess what everybody? This is now known as a forward pass:

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That's right, according to Captain Contradiction, anytime a defender knocks a ball loose it is now a forward pass, especially when the ball travels backwards from the point of contact.

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Tell ya what, Captain Contradiction, when you take your meds again, come back and admit your bullshit, otherwise don't bother replying.
 
TechRaiderRider said:
i wasn't defendin you -
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That's o.k. I thought you were saying it was the wrong call as far as placement and position. I always try to be as fair as I can in how I distribute the football. That's what I meant by defending me. Or you can side with the masses. Doesn't really bother me. I thought you were defending my integrity.
 
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Tenn"cock said:
LOL ... I literally prove you wrong without a shadow of a doubt and you very grudgingly admit it then you come back with this? ROFL

So you are both, crazy and a liar. Ok. I understand. Hey, guess what everybody? This is now known as a forward pass:

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That's right, according to Captain Contradiction, anytime a defender knocks a ball loose it is now a forward pass, especially when the ball travels backwards from the point of contact.

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Tell ya what, Captain Contradiction, when you take your meds again, come back and admit your bullshit, otherwise don't bother replying.
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Ball was to thrown laterally to nobody in particular. You posted two pictures, actually. Before and I'm guessing after. The ball fell directly into the ground. Behind the line. That's the definition of intentional grounding. At least as far as I understand it to be. Aren't you the guy who posted the pic with the defender covering the Q.B? Yes. Making it about whether or not it was down by contact. Clearly he was down. There ARE rules meant to protect the Q.B.
The preceding touchdown the Q.B. was annhilated by a defender. That's illegal. It wasn't called. My argument is you play fairly. In case you aren't getting it it includes NOT trying to remove a player forcibly from the game. This, in my estimation is clear evidence to the contrary.
I believe it's a reflection of leadership. I was injured playing football. Fairly seriously. Nearly as bad (without the infection, obviously) as Alex Smith was.
I wasn't a quarterback. I was a lineman.
But I was PERMANENTLY disabled. Fact.
I was injured before I was injured. I won't get into that but football is a sport. Injuries aren't supposed to be a part of a contest
Yes I believe Alabama cheated their way to a national championship. Both Q.B.'s were forcibly removed by players who were likely taught questionable tactics by a coach.
It's clear upon contact a Q.B. is down (by rule). You posted a picture showing it. What followed isn't very relevant but because I play FAIRLY I'm calling it an illegal forward pass that travelled backward. That's intentional grounding. Loss of down and distance. F.W.I.W.
 
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CollegeFBFan2021 said:
Ball was to thrown laterally to nobody in particular. You posted two pictures, actually. Before and I'm guessing after. The ball fell directly into the ground. Behind the line. That's the definition of intentional grounding.
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He DROPPED the ball when he got the shit knocked out of him which is a textbook fumble. Any other viewpoint is delusional.
 
CollegeFBFan2021 said:
He wasn't running with it. He was in the pocket and threw it directly into the ground.
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It doesn’t matter if he was taking a piss! It was NEVER THROWN! He got the shit knocked out of him which caused the ball to come loose. It doesn’t matter if it went forward, sideways, straight up, or straight down. It’s a textbook fumble! They don’t get any clearer.
 
RTR...USN (ret) said:
It doesn’t matter if he was taking a piss! It was NEVER THROWN! He got the shit knocked out of him which caused the ball to come loose. It doesn’t matter if it went forward, sideways, straight up, or straight down. It’s a textbook fumble! They don’t get any clearer.
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Defenseless player in the pocket. You just admitted it. Meaning he was down by contact. Which was demonstrated in the captioned photos that showed he was in the grasp before the football was dislodged. I'm being fairer to what followed than I probably ought to be. Because I'm a fair person. In the grasp means down but he threw it away. Directly into the ground away from the defender. Which an unseasoned Q.B. very likely would do notwithstanding. Meaning it was not unlike the Tom Brady play. Which was called the same way as this one was.
Meaning if you have a problem you need to talk to an official about the tuck rule. O.k.?
 
CollegeFBFan2021 said:
Defenseless player in the pocket. You just admitted it. Meaning he was down by contact. Which was demonstrated in the captioned photos that showed he was in the grasp before the football was dislodged. I'm being fairer to what followed than I probably ought to be. Because I'm a fair person. In the grasp means down but he threw it away. Directly into the ground away from the defender. Which an unseasoned Q.B. very likely would do notwithstanding. Meaning it was not unlike the Tom Brady play. Which was called the same way as this one was.
Meaning if you have a problem you need to talk to an official about the tuck rule. O.k.?
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He never fucking threw it, there is no such thing as “in the grasp”. That rule was changed years ago, and he was never down by contact. It was a fumble, t only a fool would argue otherwise.
 
RTR...USN (ret) said:
He never fucking threw it, there is no such thing as “in the grasp”. That rule was changed years ago, and he was never down by contact. It was a fumble, t only a fool would argue otherwise.
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He was clearly in the pocket. That's something we can both agree upon. He was looking to pass the football. He was caught while attempting to find an open man. The trajectory of the pass was down an behind the line of scrimmage. He was tackled from behind. Anything else you care to include?
Because I'm all out of ideas at this point. I imagine a player probably can't prevent himself from hitting a player directly. But it want a Q B. draw. Are you still with me? It was a forward pass attempt that went directly into the ground and was recovered behind the line of scrimmage. That's an illegal forward pass. Loss of down and distance. Sorry you aren't very convincing. Show me where he motioned forward with thr football because that's necessary, too.
For it to be a fumble. Changed that rule, too. Probably for circumstances like THIS one.
Clearly he was blindsided. I'm not sure that's legal because it's putting the Q.B. at risk. A fair play would have excluded the beatdown. That's called playing fairly. It us meant to keep players from being injured. That's why Tom Brady was down. It isn't any different in the NCAA. Like I said Gilbert already survived one kamikaze attack in a touchdown pass, no less. The same player who recovered the fumble initiated it. A fair ruling gives Texas the ball at the point of recovery. Loss of down.
 
CollegeFBFan2021 said:
He was clearly in the pocket. That's something we can both agree upon. He was looking to pass the football. He was caught while attempting to find an open man. The trajectory of the pass was down an behind the line of scrimmage. He was tackled from behind. Anything else you care to include?
Because I'm all out of ideas at this point. I imagine a player probably can't prevent himself from hitting a player directly. But it want a Q B. draw. Are you still with me? It was a forward pass attempt that went directly into tye ground and was recovered behind the line of scrimmage. That's an illegal forward pass. Loss of down and distance. Sorry you aren't very convincing. Show me where he motioned forward with thr football because that's necessary, too.
For it to be a fumble. Changed that rule, too. Probably for circumstances like THIS one.
Clearly he was blindsided. I'm not sure that's legal because it's putting tye Q.B. at risk. A fair play would have excluded the beatdown.
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I’ve never seen anyone as stupid as you when it comes to football. Even when there is photographic and video evidence, and an explanation of the rules, you still insist on your idiotic stance that it was a pass. You’re a fool.
 
RTR...USN (ret) said:
I’ve never seen anyone as stupid as you when it comes to football. Even when there is photographic and video evidence, and an explanation of the rules, you still insist on your idiotic stance that it was a pass. You’re a fool.
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If it wasn't a pass why didn't the football simply drop or if it was deflected mid-air why does it appear to travel in a trajectory like one would associate with a pass? Furthermore why was there a defender in proximity along with an eligible wide receiver. And why was his path (receiver) impeded by the defender. (#41)? The sane guy who leveled Q.B. Gilbert (unnecessarily in my opinion) previous T.D?.
I can answer every question. It isn't complicated. Alabama was desperately looking for a way to get into Gilbert's head. One thing I will admit and I'm pretty sure I already have, is that the trajectory was altered by the collision. Meaning its quite possible Gilbert was trying to complete the pass (like he DID with tye touchdown that caught Alabama blindsided). But couldn't. Quarterbacks aren't open game. Texas already lost one. That's enough for anyone, anywhere, anytime. Maybe cheating isn't the right description. They used strategy straight from the dugout. Dirty tricks. Making sure even if he's caught he doesn't rally.
Which is why I'm mostly o.k with the result. But the ends don't justify the means.
I heard Nick Saban apologized to Maria Taylor. I thought (quite honestly) good for Nick Saban. I guess maybe the guy does have a conscience after all. Until I saw the apology. What a Jerk! It went something like I wish I had expressed myself better under the circumstances'. And it wasn't to her but to his admiring thrng.
The simple fact is we don't know nor will we ever know which team was the superior. It might be Alabama. But it wasn't clear to me that was the case.
It would seem the Longhorns were ready to play as were the Crimson Tide.
Neither really prevailed. If I could I'd call it a stalemate. Which it might actually gave been if the proper ruling had been made but I'm willing to give Alabama the benefit of the doubt in this circumstance. But it wasn't lop-sided and it isn't clear to me necessarily that the better team won. It possible the better team lost. Unlikely. But possible. But I suppose none of it is Nick Saban's fault. F.W.I.W. I don't shoot the messenger.
 
CollegeFBFan2021 said:
If it wasn't a pass why didn't the football simply drop or if it was deflected mid-air why does it appear to travel in a trajectory like one would associate with a pass? Furthermore why was there a defender in proximity along with an eligible wide receiver. And why was his path (receiver) impeded by the defender. (#41)? The sane guy who leveled Q.B. Gilbert (unnecessarily in my opinion) previous T.D?.
I can answer every question. It isn't complicated. Alabama was desperately looking for a way to get into Gilbert's head. One thing I will admit and I'm pretty sure I already have, us that the trajectory was altered by the collision. Meaning its quite possible Gilbert was trying to complete the pass (like he DID with tye touchdown that caught Alabama blindsided). But couldn't. Quarterbacks aren't open game. Texas already lost one. That's enough for anyone, anywhere, anytime. Maybe cheating isn't the right description. They used strategy straight from the dugout. Dirty tricks. Making sure even if he's caught he doesn't rally.
Which is why I'm mostly o.k with tye result. But the ends don't justify the means.
I heard Nick Saban apologized to Maria Taylor. I thought (quite honestly) good for Nick Saban. I guess maybe the guy does have a conscience after all. Until I saw the apology. What a Jerk! It went something like I wish I had expressed myself better under the circumstances'. And it wasn't to her but to his admiring thrng.
The simple fact is we don't know nor will we ever know which team was the superior. It might be Alabama. But it wasn't clear to me that was the case.
It would seem the Longhorns were ready to play as were the Crimson Tide.
Neither really prevailed. If I could I'd call it a stalemate. Which it might actually gave been if the proper ruling had been made but I'm willing to give Alabama the benefit of the doubt in this circumstance. But it wasn't lop-sided and it isn't clear to me necessarily that the better team won. It possible the better team lost. Unlikely. But possible. But I suppose none of it is Nick Saban's fault. F.W.I.W.
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Garbage post, garbage poster. You’re a fool.
 
CollegeFBFan2021 said:
If it wasn't a pass why didn't the football simply drop or if it was deflected mid-air why does it appear to travel in a trajectory like one would associate with a pass? Furthermore why was there a defender in proximity along with an eligible wide receiver. And why was his path (receiver) impeded by the defender. (#41)? The sane guy who leveled Q.B. Gilbert (unnecessarily in my opinion) previous T.D?.
I can answer every question. It isn't complicated. Alabama was desperately looking for a way to get into Gilbert's head. One thing I will admit and I'm pretty sure I already have, is that the trajectory was altered by the collision. Meaning its quite possible Gilbert was trying to complete the pass (like he DID with tye touchdown that caught Alabama blindsided). But couldn't. Quarterbacks aren't open game. Texas already lost one. That's enough for anyone, anywhere, anytime. Maybe cheating isn't the right description. They used strategy straight from the dugout. Dirty tricks. Making sure even if he's caught he doesn't rally.
Which is why I'm mostly o.k with the result. But the ends don't justify the means.
I heard Nick Saban apologized to Maria Taylor. I thought (quite honestly) good for Nick Saban. I guess maybe the guy does have a conscience after all. Until I saw the apology. What a Jerk! It went something like I wish I had expressed myself better under the circumstances'. And it wasn't to her but to his admiring thrng.
The simple fact is we don't know nor will we ever know which team was the superior. It might be Alabama. But it wasn't clear to me that was the case.
It would seem the Longhorns were ready to play as were the Crimson Tide.
Neither really prevailed. If I could I'd call it a stalemate. Which it might actually gave been if the proper ruling had been made but I'm willing to give Alabama the benefit of the doubt in this circumstance. But it wasn't lop-sided and it isn't clear to me necessarily that the better team won. It possible the better team lost. Unlikely. But possible. But I suppose none of it is Nick Saban's fault. F.W.I.W. I don't shoot the messenger.
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// Alabama was desperately looking for a way to get into Gilbert's head. \\
And you know this how? You had inside info into BAMA's sideline at that moment?

//The simple fact is we don't know nor will we ever know which team was the superior.\\
WOW!!! You know a lot of people mock and deride you and that quote I posted is EXACTLY why.
 
CollegeFBFan2021 said:
If it wasn't a pass why didn't the football simply drop or if it was deflected mid-air why does it appear to travel in a trajectory like one would associate with a pass? Furthermore why was there a defender in proximity along with an eligible wide receiver. And why was his path (receiver) impeded by the defender. (#41)? The sane guy who leveled Q.B. Gilbert (unnecessarily in my opinion) previous T.D?.
I can answer every question. It isn't complicated. Alabama was desperately looking for a way to get into Gilbert's head. One thing I will admit and I'm pretty sure I already have, is that the trajectory was altered by the collision. Meaning its quite possible Gilbert was trying to complete the pass (like he DID with tye touchdown that caught Alabama blindsided). But couldn't. Quarterbacks aren't open game. Texas already lost one. That's enough for anyone, anywhere, anytime. Maybe cheating isn't the right description. They used strategy straight from the dugout. Dirty tricks. Making sure even if he's caught he doesn't rally.
Which is why I'm mostly o.k with the result. But the ends don't justify the means.
I heard Nick Saban apologized to Maria Taylor. I thought (quite honestly) good for Nick Saban. I guess maybe the guy does have a conscience after all. Until I saw the apology. What a Jerk! It went something like I wish I had expressed myself better under the circumstances'. And it wasn't to her but to his admiring thrng.
The simple fact is we don't know nor will we ever know which team was the superior. It might be Alabama. But it wasn't clear to me that was the case.
It would seem the Longhorns were ready to play as were the Crimson Tide.
Neither really prevailed. If I could I'd call it a stalemate. Which it might actually gave been if the proper ruling had been made but I'm willing to give Alabama the benefit of the doubt in this circumstance. But it wasn't lop-sided and it isn't clear to me necessarily that the better team won. It possible the better team lost. Unlikely. But possible. But I suppose none of it is Nick Saban's fault. F.W.I.W. I don't shoot the messenger.
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You are dumber than I tell people.

It flew out of the QBs hand because a defender hit him from the side thus why the ball flew to the right and back since the defender and the QB went forward and to the right with momentum. The QB had no control of the ball once he got hit which is why it flew out of his hand. Textbook fumble, dumbass.
 
Tenn"cock said:
You are dumber than I tell people.

It flew out of the QBs hand because a defender hit him from the side thus why the ball flew to the right and back since the defender and the QB went forward and to the right with momentum. The QB had no control of the ball once he got hit which is why it flew out of his hand. Textbook fumble, dumbass.
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I don’t know whether to perma-ban him, or perms-ban myself so I don’t have to read this drivel anymore. Decisions, decisions...🤔
 
Tenn"cock said:
You are dumber than I tell people.

It flew out of the QBs hand because a defender hit him from the side thus why the ball flew to the right and back since the defender and the QB went forward and to the right with momentum. The QB had no control of the ball once he got hit which is why it flew out of his hand. Textbook fumble, dumbass.
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But it wasn't a fumble. At worst and I'll accept the worst, it was a deflected forward pass. Fumbles require intent to run. He was hit (blindsided) a result of at least a questionable (as far as intent, not as far as application) defensive formation. An open lane gave the DB clear sailing. Which is o.k. but he didn't dislodge the football. That is necessary and essential and the Q B. certainly didn't drop it. That pic you posted was misleading. He'd already RELEASED tye football and was pulling his arm back, afterward. Sure the Angie and the trajectory (from that angle) looks like a fumble. But anyone who saw the play develop know a fumble does't fly through the air in a spiral and fall several yards behind the line of scrimmage. It was a deflected forward pass. Actually the consequence of it being a deflected forward pass are much worse. No loss of down. No loss of distance. It isn't recoverable. It would have resulted in second and ten. I like that option better. But because I'm a fair person I'm calling intentional grounding. That's your only option. Defender actually interferred with recovery. But because it fell behind the line of scrimmage it isn't a penalty. Simple unrecoverable. Meaning second and long.
 
CollegeFBFan2021 said:
But it wasn't a fumble. At worst and I'll accept the worst, it was a deflected forward pass. Fumbles require intent to run. He was hit (blindsided) a result of at least a questionable (as far as intent, not as far as application) defensive formation. An open lane gave the DB clear sailing. Which is o.k. but he didn't dislodge the football. That is necessary and essential and the Q B. certainly didn't drop it. That pic you posted was misleading. He'd already RELEASED tye football and was pulling his arm back, afterward. Sure the Angie and the trajectory (from that angle) looks like a fumble. But anyone who saw the play develop know a fumble does't fly through the air in a spiral and fall several yards behind the line of scrimmage. It was a deflected forward pass. Actually the consequence of it being a deflected forward pass are much worse. No loss of down. No loss of distance. It isn't recoverable. It would have resulted in second and ten. I like that option better. But because I'm a fair person I'm calling intentional grounding. That's your only option. Defender actually interferred with recovery. But because it fell behind the line of scrimmage it isn't a penalty. Simple unrecoverable. Meaning second and long.
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Just when it seems impossible for you to post anything dumber, you raise the bar and keep typing.
 
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