Only Semi Political. Vaccine related...

RuffledFeathers said:
LOL, "edging up" is an interesting choice of words. Over a month ago, when I made that post there were 112 new cases in a state of almost 5.2 million. This week, 116 new cases were reported. There are a few reports of over 200 new cases, but those are typically weekend reports including multiple days combined.
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DHEC is reporting 395 today, backdated to Wednesday. I'm not sure how many days this covers, but they had another report earlier in the week.
Several rural counties, including my own, have had weeks of zero new cases. Of course, if you go from 0 new cases to 1 new case, then ON NO!, THAT'S A 100% INCREASE IN NEW CASES! Imagine if a household of 4 became new cases, it's the end of the world!
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I'm in the Midlands, and cases went down to single digits for a while, and getting back up into the 20's and 30's on these reports (one 60 last week). Do I think we'll get back to the peak? No. But it's annoying since it was preventable.
The difference between the explosion of the variant virus in India and the non-explosion in SC is apparently herd immunity. We are apparently near the "83 to 94%" (per google) of the population requirement to reach herd immunity, despite only half that number having been vaccinated.
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Not sure where they're getting that number. There have been ~ 600,000 positives, and 1.8 million vaccinations, so it should be around 50%.

I predict there will be some surges in-state, same as in the states I mentioned earlier. Just a matter of where.
 
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TechRaiderRider said:
how do you know this?
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Do you have evidence against it? Most people get mild side effects for 24-48 hours after getting the shot. Mine were gone by the next morning. Typical symptoms for Covid last for 7+ days, I believe. For those that get asymptomatic Covid, I don't see anything around showing that any group of them got vax'd and got worse symptoms (anecdotes don't count).

As far as long-term effects, there are currently none known to be associated with the vaccines, unlike the virus itself (where death is one, for example).
 
GamecocksAnonymous said:
DHEC is reporting 395 today, backdated to Wednesday. I'm not sure how many days this covers, but they had another report earlier in the week.

I'm in the Midlands, and cases went down to single digits for a while, and getting back up into the 20's and 30's on these reports (one 60 last week). Do I think we'll get back to the peak? No. But it's annoying since it was preventable.

Not sure where they're getting that number. There have been ~ 600,000 positives, and 1.8 million vaccinations, so it should be around 50%.

I predict there will be some surges in-state, same as in the states I mentioned earlier. Just a matter of where.
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You do realize that about a million people live in the midlands, or a fifth of the state population. A fifth of 125 new cases would be 25 new cases. That's right in line with your "into the 20's and 30's" you mention.

You do realize we can never get to a 100% vaccinated level? A small percentage of the world's population cannot take the vaccine because of health reasons, primarily the immuno compromised, especially those with organ transplants. My own brother is taking medication to suppress his immune system. There are a millions that are being medically advised to not take the vaccine because of the known heart risks, both strokes and heart inflammation in particular.

The new variant isn't any more lethal, just more contagious. There should be a slight uptick, or "edging up" as you put it, for those that have no antibodies. Apparently these people had sufficient health to ward off the original covid, but not the newest version of the contagion. With survivors of the variant, the percentage of the population with antibodies will increase, aiding herd immunity.

I expect the fall and winter months will see a spike, as the high UV saturation of the summer sun wans.
 
RuffledFeathers said:
You do realize that about a million people live in the midlands, or a fifth of the state population. A fifth of 125 new cases would be 25 new cases. That's right in line with your "into the 20's and 30's" you mention.

You do realize we can never get to a 100% vaccinated level? A small percentage of the world's population cannot take the vaccine because of health reasons, primarily the immuno compromised, especially those with organ transplants. My own brother is taking medication to suppress his immune system. There are a millions that are being medically advised to not take the vaccine because of the known heart risks, both strokes and heart inflammation in particular.

The new variant isn't any more lethal, just more contagious. There should be a slight uptick, or "edging up" as you put it, for those that have no antibodies. Apparently these people had sufficient health to ward off the original covid, but not the newest version of the contagion. With survivors of the variant, the percentage of the population with antibodies will increase, aiding herd immunity.

I expect the fall and winter months will see a spike, as the high UV saturation of the summer sun wans.
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SC reports 395 new COVID-19 cases, 1 death Thursday (wistv.com)

“Only 17,000 South Carolinians age 20-24 have received at least one shot, which is by far the lowest vaccination number for any eligible age group in the state. We need to change that,” Traxler said. “The Delta variant especially can be dangerous even for this age group. In addition, unvaccinated young adults could carry the variant and pass it to their parents, grandparents, and other vulnerable people in our communities.”
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There's going to be another surge among the young/unvaccinated, as the Delta gets moving. Case numbers in the 20's/county are plenty enough to seed a wider outbreak. Today is the highest number we've seen in like 2 months.

Nationally, those unwilling to get vax'd are prolonging the window where a vaccine-resistant mutation could take place.

Check out what's happening in Europe: COVID Delta variant is hitting the young and unvaccinated particularly hard in Europe | Fortune
 
GamecocksAnonymous said:
Not sure where they're getting that number. There have been ~ 600,000 positives, and 1.8 million vaccinations, so it should be around 50%.
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You're 50% number doesn't take into account the unknown number of people that got covid, never showed symptoms, and therefore, never got tested, yet built natural antibodies. Do you have any speculation on what that number might be?

Where I am in Georgia, I couldn't tell you how many people are convinced they had it and never went to the doctor.
 
OldDevilDawg said:
You're 50% number doesn't take into account the unknown number of people that got covid, never showed symptoms, and therefore, never got tested, yet built natural antibodies. Do you have any speculation on what that number might be?

Where I am in Georgia, I couldn't tell you how many people are convinced they had it and never went to the doctor.
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Yes, certainly there are some of those. There are also people who got symptoms and never got tested. I doubt that it's 35-40% of the state population, though.

Bold: I think that's common across the country. But a lot of those were probably just colds or flu. An antibody test would clear it up.
 
GamecocksAnonymous said:
Yes, certainly there are some of those. There are also people who got symptoms and never got tested. I doubt that it's 35-40% of the state population, though.

Bold: I think that's common across the country. But a lot of those were probably just colds or flu. An antibody test would clear it up.
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I'll be the first to agree it's unlikely to be 35-40%. I've always been a believer in, "The most likely answer is usually the correct answer." Still, though, I'm confident that the number is higher that most "experts" would be willing to admit. Back early last year in the beginnings of the pandemic, when there was no testing available, my Mom got very sick. Because of her health, her doctor wouldn't allow her to even come to his office. He treated her remotely as if she was positive for covid and still says he's confident that is what she had.
 
Copejunkie said:
Im in my forties, I ain't getting it. Hell I probably already had it, covid that is, as far as I'm concerned the kids running around "being young and stupid" are doing themselves and society in general a favor. Get the antibodies naturally and herd immunity is here. Most of them won't even know they had it. Sorry, but when they have a very small chance of having side effects from the virus, and an even smaller chance of dying why get vaccinated and run the risk of side affects from the vaccination. And don't give me the "if you're not vaccinated you're selfish stance", the people who don't want to take the chance of getting it are already vaccinated so they shouldn't worry about what others do, they are supposedly protected are they not.
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Covid fucked my monkey ass up but I have chronic bronchitis so it was to be expected.
 
GamecocksAnonymous said:
Do you have evidence against it? Most people get mild side effects for 24-48 hours after getting the shot. Mine were gone by the next morning. Typical symptoms for Covid last for 7+ days, I believe. For those that get asymptomatic Covid, I don't see anything around showing that any group of them got vax'd and got worse symptoms (anecdotes don't count).
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most people who got the rona,
also only experienced symptoms -


GamecocksAnonymous said:
As far as long-term effects, there are currently none known to be associated with the vaccines, unlike the virus itself (where death is one, for example).
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so, there's no known long-tern effects for the "vaccine" -
wonder why -
 
That little gremlen Fauci will say anything to stay in the spotlight.

No mask, 14 days to flatten the curve, mask, double mask, mask after vaccination, now variants.

He hasn't treated a patient in decades, yet doctors that have been treating this get kicked off social media for posting their experience and what the 70 something year old sitting President used to beat it in three days.
 
TechRaiderRider said:
most people who got the rona,
also only experienced symptoms -
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Wut?
so, there's no known long-tern effects for the "vaccine" -
wonder why -
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There are people who were jabbed over a year ago. Most problems with vaccines are short-term. All of these underwent regular trial periods.

There's never been a vax, to my knowledge, that has started harming people years later.
 
GamecocksAnonymous said:
Wut?

There are people who were jabbed well over a year ago. Most problems with vaccines are short-term. All of these underwent regular trial periods.

There's never been a vax, to my knowledge, that has started harming people years later.
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how funny - i forgot the word mild -
what a dumbass -
(distracted poster)
 
You cannot convince me that the vaccine is unsafe because you cannot convince me the pandemic wasn't staged and the disease wasn't deliberately released and has been sitting there for years with all the major countries knowledgeable about it.

Do I have any evidence? No, is there evidence contrary to my gut instinct, no.

I feel like this whole thing was a preparedness test and truly believe there's soon to be an "event" that will fuck us all up.
 
OldDevilDawg said:
This is why I'm convinced that we are closer to herd immunity than the gubmint is willing to admit. They talk out of both sides of their mouth and constantly contradict themselves.
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Exactly right. The “cases are surging” arguments are based on imprecise tests that come back positive among people who had no idea they were infected. But if you call it a case, it invokes images of hospital beds and ventilators.

Use Duck Duck Go to learn about Ivermectin if you haven’t already. It’s a drug, off patent that’s been administered 4 billion times worldwide that happens to be hugely successful in treating Covid…cheap, safe and effective. But they wanted to spend trillions, so it’s not allowed. The current Emergency Use Authorization of the vaccines would be illegal if Ivermectin was allowed as a treatment.

I first heard about it on the Joe Rogan podcast, summed up here: ”Dr. Pierre Kory is an ICU and lung specialist who is an expert on the use of the drug ivermectin to treat COVID-19. Bret Weinstein is an evolutionary biologist, visiting fellow at Princeton, host of the DarkHorse podcast, and co-author (with his wife, Heather Heying) of the forthcoming "A Hunter-Gatherer's Guide to the 21st Century."

Dr. Kory’s website here: https://covid19criticalcare.com/

He calls this the crime of the century.
 
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