The pain of suicide

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BY THE REV. DR. CLAY SMITH
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The young man discovered his wife was having an affair with a cop. They talked. She wasn't sure what she wanted. The next day when he came home from work, the cop and his wife were sitting at the table. An argument ensued. At a heated moment, the young man reached on top of the refrigerator and pulled down his pistol. The cop started to get up. The young man said, "Maybe this will convince you." He put the pistol to his head and pulled the trigger. He was gone.

I officiated at his funeral. It was my first funeral of a suicide victim. The family asked a friend, a talented guitarist and singer, to sing two Garth Brooks songs: "The Dance" and "Much too Young." The young man's wife, his widow, sobbed through the whole service. There were no words I could say to take away her shame, guilt and grief. We buried that young man on a cold Kentucky hillside.

I wish I could say that was my last funeral of a suicide victim, but it wasn't. Sometimes people act impulsively, like the young man. Sometimes the pain of living is so great, a person feels like they can't go on. Sometimes a person feels alone, isolated. They truly feel like no one cares if they live or die. Suicide seems like the best option.

Once, when I had to do a funeral for a person who took their own life, God put in my mind the thought of fog. Ever been in a fog so thick you couldn't see? A fog so dense you didn't know where you were? That's what life is like for someone who commits suicide. They have lost their way in the fog. Suicide seems to be the only way out.

I've been asked more than once if people who commit suicide are barred from heaven. The answer is "no." The manner of a person's death does not determine their relationship with God. When a Jesus follower chooses to end his or her life, I think Jesus meets them with a mixture of sadness, because they have arrived at heaven early, and compassion, because he understands their pain.




The title song for "M*A*S*H" was "Suicide is Painless," but that's a lie. I've held mothers who have wept over their child's tragic decision. I've stood by fathers who look at the casket holding their child with a vacant stare, searching for the answer to "why." I've sat with a wife and daughter trying to fathom how their lives changed in a moment by a choice they had no part of. Suicide leaves devastation in its wake.

Words do not quench the pain of suicide. A good friend of mine from college lost her husband to suicide. She shared with me that one pastor came by and, meaning well, began to talk to her about all the stages of grief. She remembered thinking "I wish he would just shut up." What did help was a friend who came and just sat. Didn't say much. He was just there. Sometimes the most holy thing you can do is just be there.

This same friend told me it helped that people had not forgotten her. She still gets texts from people asking how she is, expressing concern, extending care. A funeral marks the start of the grief journey, not the end. People need support, encouragement and presence on that journey. They need you to be there.

The people left behind after suicide have to wrestle with doubt: "Could I have stopped him? Was it something I did or said? Was I not enough for him or her?" People come to me during the grief process and ask, "Why did God let this happen?" It's not time for a discussion on free will and the sovereignty of God. I tell people it is OK to be angry at God and not even know why you're angry. When my children were small, they would get angry at me, not because I had done something to hurt them, but because I was safe. They knew I would not stop loving them, even if they were angry. God doesn't stop loving you in your pain. He is safe. You can pour out your heart to him.

If someone you care about has ended their life, I will not offer the flippant advice that "time heals all wounds." What I believe is this: Our heavenly Father loves you, will listen to your pain, will guide you and will give you strength. You don't have to be put together. You can be real with your Heavenly Father. Your grief is his grief.

If you are thinking about ending your life, if that dark thought dances through your soul from time to time, I want you to know there is hope. There are people out there who care about you. You are not a burden. The most courageous thing you can do is not end your life but reach out for help.

Psalm 30:5 says, "Weeping may last for the night, but joy comes in the morning." Your life is a precious gift. If you are in the dark, reach out for help. Hold on. Joy is coming.

The National Suicide Prevention Hotline is staffed 24 hours a day: 1-800-273-8255.




The Rev. Dr. Clay Smith is the lead pastor of Alice Drive Baptist Church in Sumter.

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I lost a brother to that shit...no one even knew it was a thought in his mind...his son and grand kids spent the day with him and everything seemed fine...after they left he went out in the woods,sat down on a fallen tree,put a pistol to his head and pulled the trigger. That's been 8 years ago and it still hurts...I think of him often,the good times and the bad. Would not wish for anyone to have to go through this...


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If yall didnt know, @RTR...USN (ret) is a good man !

Yep, but he's still a squid.

As far as suicide goes.....I ain't scared of dying, but there is no chance in hell I'll ever have the balls to take my own life. I simply can't fathom being that lost.

Many years ago, while stationed in Hawaii, when asked "How you doing?", I started responding, "Another beautiful day in paradise". I still say that today. Today, I explain that "paradise" is in between my ears. Don't let the shit on the outside affect what happens on the inside.
 
I lost a brother to that shit...no one even knew it was a thought in his mind...his son and grand kids spent the day with him and everything seemed fine...after they left he went out in the woods,sat down on a fallen tree,put a pistol to his head and pulled the trigger. That's been 8 years ago and it still hurts...I think of him often,the good times and the bad. Would not wish for anyone to have to go through this...


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So sorry, my man.
 
I lost a brother to that shit...no one even knew it was a thought in his mind...his son and grand kids spent the day with him and everything seemed fine...after they left he went out in the woods,sat down on a fallen tree,put a pistol to his head and pulled the trigger. That's been 8 years ago and it still hurts...I think of him often,the good times and the bad. Would not wish for anyone to have to go through this...


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God bless my man.
 
I lost a brother to that shit...no one even knew it was a thought in his mind...his son and grand kids spent the day with him and everything seemed fine...after they left he went out in the woods,sat down on a fallen tree,put a pistol to his head and pulled the trigger. That's been 8 years ago and it still hurts...I think of him often,the good times and the bad. Would not wish for anyone to have to go through this...


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Damn bro, sorry to hear this.
 
Yep, but he's still a squid.

As far as suicide goes.....I ain't scared of dying, but there is no chance in hell I'll ever have the balls to take my own life. I simply can't fathom being that lost.

Many years ago, while stationed in Hawaii, when asked "How you doing?", I started responding, "Another beautiful day in paradise". I still say that today. Today, I explain that "paradise" is in between my ears. Don't let the shit on the outside affect what happens on the inside.
This. We all go through hard times. But it's not possible for me to fathom being that lost.

I have a friend who I worry about. He seems to be in a state of perpetual depression. Some of you met him at the wedding. I try to keep in touch with him as often as I can.
 
No one here know this but my Dad committed suicide years ago. I was nineteen and the oldest of the five kids the youngest being eleven. We banded together and through a lot of love and hard work made it through. My poor Mom remarried a few years later and he was killed in a tragic accident where their car was hit by a big truck. The accident also killed his brother's wife and hospitalized Mom. She was also a cancer survivor. Tough old bird to say the least.

Today we are all educated and doing very well all working in a "professional" career. My younger brother is an engineer with 7 US patents. He and I discuss what happened and if the thoughts ever cross our minds. We both admitted it has but we would never act in a way that hurts so many others.
 
I really appreciate you and your OP on this issue. I tried and failed miserably to explain how a person can be in that fog and not realize it. That was the position I found myself in but luckily decided that something was just not right and got in patient help. My brother was a number of the 22 vets one day, but his was mostly from a long term drug induced mental state. I had a cousin that was a combat medic and recently medically retired from the Army due to combat related PTSD die last year from her overdosing her medicine … it was ruled accidental, but we are not sure of that … so the issue really is personal to me as well. My point is that even if a person is actively planning suicide, it can be very hard to tell unless you are around them practically 24/7. It is also a very permanent solution to temporary problems that does incredible harm to those that love you. IF at any time anyone thinks that something is wrong, please reach out for help. There is no shame in saving a life, especially when it is yours. And everyone should try to be proactive, discreet but proactive. You don't even have to broach the suicide topic, just a "something seems to really be bothering you, care to talk" can be more than plenty.
 
I really appreciate you and your OP on this issue. I tried and failed miserably to explain how a person can be in that fog and not realize it. That was the position I found myself in but luckily decided that something was just not right and got in patient help. My brother was a number of the 22 vets one day, but his was mostly from a long term drug induced mental state. I had a cousin that was a combat medic and recently medically retired from the Army due to combat related PTSD die last year from her overdosing her medicine … it was ruled accidental, but we are not sure of that … so the issue really is personal to me as well. My point is that even if a person is actively planning suicide, it can be very hard to tell unless you are around them practically 24/7. It is also a very permanent solution to temporary problems that does incredible harm to those that love you. IF at any time anyone thinks that something is wrong, please reach out for help. There is no shame in saving a life, especially when it is yours. And everyone should try to be proactive, discreet but proactive. You don't even have to broach the suicide topic, just a "something seems to really be bothering you, care to talk" can be more than plenty.
Everyone needs to talk to someone at one point or another. We’ve all had points where we were overwhelmed and didn’t know where to turn. Most are able to tap into a support system and work things out, but some don’t know who to talk to or where to find help. I have personally chatted in private messages to some on this board just to talk through issues. Make the call, send that message, knock on someone’s door. The method isn’t important, but the reaching out is!
 
I really appreciate you and your OP on this issue. I tried and failed miserably to explain how a person can be in that fog and not realize it. That was the position I found myself in but luckily decided that something was just not right and got in patient help. My brother was a number of the 22 vets one day, but his was mostly from a long term drug induced mental state. I had a cousin that was a combat medic and recently medically retired from the Army due to combat related PTSD die last year from her overdosing her medicine … it was ruled accidental, but we are not sure of that … so the issue really is personal to me as well. My point is that even if a person is actively planning suicide, it can be very hard to tell unless you are around them practically 24/7. It is also a very permanent solution to temporary problems that does incredible harm to those that love you. IF at any time anyone thinks that something is wrong, please reach out for help. There is no shame in saving a life, especially when it is yours. And everyone should try to be proactive, discreet but proactive. You don't even have to broach the suicide topic, just a "something seems to really be bothering you, care to talk" can be more than plenty.

That last line makes a lot of sense, great advice. Thanks to all for sharing their perspective.
 
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