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[CollegeFBFan2021]

COMPLETELY WRONG. you keep saying "I think" because you are making shit up AGAIN. YOU ARE WRONG.

The video evidence proves you are not only wrong but lying your ass off. Sad to see you reduced to lying about a play because of jealousy. Bama won fair and square. You have no idea how he was lined up because you have no proof so you lie and say "I think". That shit is sad even for a crazy person.

It was a classic example of a fumble. I've made it easy for you to see yet you wont admit how wrong you are. This makes me feel like you are completely lying about your system and BYU is actually a shit team.

smh .... damn, obviously lying to try and cover up a perfect tackle, and fumble.

You are free to make your own assessment. I never tried to paint Brigham Young as anything beyond simply adequate. I haven't ventured as of late to quantify where precisely they land but it seems they were somewhere at or very near top-60. Which is a barrier of a sort. Top-60 says competitive. It's weird to me how people continually question my good judgement only to be proven wrong. Then deny ever having done it. I'm putting my foot down once and for all. What we know about 1984 particular to the national championship is that many people thought Brigham Young an adequate substitute for Florida who were on probation. What I've since learned is that by many measures perhaps not all, Brigham Young might have been the superior. Evidence would seem to indicate it as such. In fact BYU was at least capable of of claiming a national championship. Not because of me!
It has nothing to do with me. I admitted they require assistance. Which they do. But the irony of ironies is so would have Florida
Simply penciling Florida to in as a replacement or doesn't address the problem is any better than leaving well enough alone.
You want to know the REAL reason Brigham Young claimed a championship? Nobody else merited consideration is why. Florida was in probation but it's not necessarily a given they beat Nebraska. L.S.U. got beat.
L.S.U. actually tied Florida. Why should I assume Florida necessarily wins?
But that's not how I operate. The reality is neither team (Florida, Brigham Young) can uniquely catty the Championship on theyr shoulders. What's even MORE interesting is neither team WITH assistance completely carries sufficient leverage. The ONLY way either team can claim a championship is to SHARE it. How's that for a tough pill to swallow. Nit only THAT the same scenario repeated itself in 1996. Florida can't claim universal claim over 1996 any better than Brigham Young can solitarily claim 1984.
What CAN be done is ADMIT it.
The net result therefore is cooperation. Brigham Young doesn't claim 1996 even though they won s Belt and Florida doesn't claim 1984. FOR THE SAME REASON. That's called playing to fairly. I don't want to hear another word about BYu being undeserving. It's personal for me. And UNNECESSARY!

 

[RTR...USN (ret)]

You are free to make your own assessment. I never tried to paint Brigham Young as anything beyond simply adequate. I haven't ventured as of late to quantify where precisely they land but it seems they were somewhere at or very near top-60. Which is a barrier of a sort. Top-60 says competitive. It's weird to me how people continually question my good judgement only to be proven wrong. Then deny ever having done it. I'm putting my foot down once and for all. What we know about 1984 particular to the national championship is that many people thought Brigham Young an adequate substitute for Florida who were on probation. What I've since learned is that by many measures perhaps not all, Brigham Young might have been the superior. Evidence would seem to indicate it as such. In fact BYU was at least capable of of claiming a national championship. Not because of me!
It has nothing to do with me. I admitted they require assistance. Which they do. But the irony of ironies is so would have Florida
Simply penciling Florida to in as a replacement or doesn't address the problem is any better than leaving well enough alone.
You want to know the REAL reason Brigham Young claimed a championship? Nobody else merited consideration is why. Florida was in probation but it's not necessarily a given they beat Nebraska. L.S.U. got beat.
L.S.U. actually tied Florida. Why should I assume Florida necessarily wins?
But that's not how I operate. The reality is neither team (Florida, Brigham Young) can uniquely catty the Championship on theyr shoulders. What's even MORE interesting is neither team WITH assistance completely carries sufficient leverage. The ONLY way either team can claim a championship is to SHARE it. How's that for a tough pill to swallow. Nit only THAT the same scenario repeated itself in 1996. Florida can't claim universal claim over 1996 any better than Brigham Young can solitarily claim 1984.
What CAN be done is ADMIT it.
The net result therefore is cooperation. Brigham Young doesn't claim 1996 even though they won s Belt and Florida doesn't claim 1984. FOR THE SAME REASON. That's called playing to fairly. I don't want to hear another word about BYu being undeserving. It's personal for me. And UNNECESSARY!

Read this before posting about football. You obviously don’t understand the rules, and damn sure don’t know shit about how a RECOGNIZED championship is earned!

 

[Tenn"cock]

Tom Brady"s fumble wasn't either. The point I'm making shouldn't be that hard to follow. Gilbert was attempting to pass the football. I believe there are rules in place to protect a quarterback from being blindsided.

WRONG! QBs are blindsided all the time. That is the Left Tackles job is protect the QBs blind side but when the LB gets around him then its all fair.

So WRONG again!

 

[Tenn"cock]

It was a weird set of circumstances.

WHAT? No it was a football game and a singular play in the game. It ran exactly how plays run. QB was TOAST!

WRONG AGAIN!

 

[Tenn"cock]

You are free to make your own assessment. I never tried to paint Brigham Young as anything beyond simply adequate.

WRONG AGAIN! EEEEHHHHHHHHH!

LOL... I knew you would make this mistake and mess up so obviously even you could not lie your way out of it.

I just blew your ass up!

 

[CollegeFBFan2021]

Read this before posting about football. You obviously don’t understand the rules, and damn sure don’t know shit about how a RECOGNIZED championship is earned!

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Maybe you can help me understand. I'm willing to listen. As far as recognition. Like with other things you're preaching to the choir. I don't recognize a national championship. You're blatantly falsely accusing me of something I'm not guilty of.

 

[RTR...USN (ret)]

Maybe you can help me understand. I'm willing to listen. As far as recognition. Like with other things you're preaching to the choir. I don't recognize a national championship. You're blatantly falsely accusing me of something I'm not guilty of.

Every time someone has tried to explain something to you, whether it be a rule, formation, terminology, tactics, strategy, or anything else related to college football you’ve become defensive and argumentative. Seriously, if you want to learn that’s great! The sport we love needs great, passionate fans who love and understand the game, but don’t attack folks when they’re trying to point out facts. There is a lot of great books out there that can help you learn. I suggest you buy/download a few, and after you’ve read them ask questions, but be willing to learn even if it doesn’t fit your opinion. Facts never change... opinions do, and you have to be able to differentiate between the two. You seem to struggle with this.

 

[CollegeFBFan2021]

Every time someone has tried to explain something to you, whether it be a rule, formation, terminology, tactics, strategy, or anything else related to college football you’ve become defensive and argumentative. Seriously, if you want to learn that’s great! The sport we love needs great, passionate fans who love and understand the game, but don’t attack folks when they’re trying to point out facts. There is a lot of great books out there that can help you learn. I suggest you buy/download a few, and after you’ve read them ask questions, but be willing to learn even if it doesn’t fit your opinion. Facts never change... opinions do, and you have to be able to differentiate between the two. You seem to struggle with this.

I honestly don't remember attacking anyone. Just so you understand I feel a need to defend myself which I have done only when necessary. I also don't remember proving anyone wrong. People make mistakes. You underestimate me. That's unfortunate. But time will prove me correct, as per usual. You honestly think I don't read? How Praytel, do you explain (try, my friend) my own paradigm? You think a bird flew from the sky and told me what to use? Honestly it's sad. This is an accumulation of literally DECADES (my entire life, at least and I'm presently in my fifth decade of life). Study.
Don't patronize me. I have a clue. More typically than that I might be the utmost authority on what's relevant and what isn't. I'm not debating facts. Colt McCoy wasn't injured early in the contest? I lied about that? The official didn't initially rule the fumble an incomplete pass attempt? Ha.
That's the sad part. You want me to accept revisionist history. Nope, not buying it.
Your saving grace is it's unlikely, possible certainly but unlikely Texas actually wins. But we'll never know will we? I don't cheat.
Brigham Young doesn't cheat, either. F.W.I.W.

 

[RTR...USN (ret)]

I honestly don't remember attacking anyone. Just so you understand I feel a need to defend myself which I have done only when necessary. I also don't remember proving anyone wrong. People make mistakes. You underestimate me. That's unfortunate. But time will prove me correct, as per usual. You honestly think I don't read? How Praytel, do you explain (try, my friend) my own paradigm? You think a bird flew from the sky and told me what to use? Honestly it's sad. This is an accumulation of literally DECADES (my entire life, at least and I'm presently in my fifth decade of life). Study.
Don't patronize me. I have a clue. More typically than that I might be the utmost authority on what's relevant and what isn't. I'm not debating facts. Colt McCoy wasn't injured early in the contest? I lied about that? The official didn't initially rule the fumble an incomplete pass attempt? Ha.
That's the sad part. You want me to accept revisionist history. Nope, not buying it.
Your saving grace is it's unlikely, possible certainly but unlikely Texas actually wins. But we'll never know will we? I don't cheat.
Brigham Young doesn't cheat, either. F.W.I.W.

You’re proving everything I’ve said in this post. I give up trying. Have a nice life.

 

[CollegeFBFan2021]

You’re proving everything I’ve said in this post. I give up trying. Have a nice life.

I don't think so. You can't just accuse me without evidence. I said it was unlikely Texas wins in spite of everything that went against them. Didn't I just admit that? You get all pissed off if every sentence isn't exactly what you think it ought to be. What I wanted was a fair ruling. Texas didn't cheat. I think that's pretty obvious. Alabama had to resort to what I consider very questionable tactics. I admitted the play (call it a fumble) was a missed blocking assignment. A lineman missed his man. But, Alabama was trying to confuse the offense by putting men on the line.
It seems kind of ticky-tac, but I probably wouldn't have done it. I don't think it was necessary. On replay it looks like a great defensive play until you understand it.
Maybe it isn't cheating. I probably wouldn't know. But McCoy was out, didn't matter. Gilbert played well enough and Texas had a chance until late. The other guy, Liquid Metal admitted it wasn't exactly on the level. It was Alabama's first title and he was rubbing it in by suggesting Texas never recovered. I'd say N. Carolina is still relevant. Mack Brown is still coaching. N. Carolina isn't relevant? I.D.T.S.

 

[CollegeFBFan2021]

//Teams don't rise and fall on one game.\\
See the longhorns after the 2009 season and played BAMA for the crystal. They haven't been the same since.

Mack Brown is still coaching. I think you underestimate the resilience of players as well as administrators. Texas hasn't exactly fallen off the map. Time will tell whether or not they will fully recover from a disappointing national championship game that went against conventional wisdom. It's anyone's guess what might have happened had things gone just a little differently. And I hated how it ended.

 

[RTR...USN (ret)]

Alabama had to resort to what I consider very questionable tactics. I admitted the play (call it a fumble) was a missed blocking assignment. A lineman missed his man. But, Alabama was trying to confuse the offense by putting men on the line.

THATS WHAT THEY’RE SUPPOSED TO DO you twit! The whole objective of a defense is to create confusion and chaos to limit the ability of the offense to execute. READ A DAMN BOOK!!

 

[CollegeFBFan2021]

THATS WHAT THEY’RE SUPPOSED TO DO you twit! The whole objective of a defense is to create confusion and chaos to limit the ability of the offense to execute. READ A DAMN BOOK!!

It doesn't matter. It's unlikely Texas would have rallied but I would have been interested to see what might have happened if they'd simply ruled the fumble an incomplete forward pass. That was my position from the beginning. I said it was a missed blocking assignment. That, in fact precipitated the forced fumble. Assuredly you can differentiate between the two? It's cause and effect. It seems unlikely to me there would have been a missed blocking assignment if Alabama hadn't stacked the line of scrimmage. It might not be cheating. But it's stretching the limits of fair play. Obviously Texas had Alabama on their heels, regardless. 19-22. With sufficient time to move the football. Second down. Seems at least possible we are looking at a possible overtime scenario. I didn't like the ending.

 

[RTR...USN (ret)]

It doesn't matter. It's unlikely Texas would have rallied but I would have been interested to see what might have happened if they'd simply ruled the fumble an incomplete forward pass. That was my position from the beginning. I said it was a missed blocking assignment. That, in fact precipitated the forced fumble. Assuredly you can differentiate between the two? It's cause and effect. It seems unlikely to me there would have been a missed blocking assignment if Alabama hadn't stacked the line of scrimmage. It might not be cheating. But it's stretching the limits of fair play. Obviously Texas had Alabama on their heels, regardless. 19-22. With sufficient time to move the football. Second down. Seems at least possible we are looking at a possible overtime scenario. I didn't like the ending.

You’re an idiot.

 

[CollegeFBFan2021]

You’re an idiot.

Whatever. That's because you and I don't agree on a championship I had nothing to do with? I don't remember saying Alabama didn't deserve it. I simply want teams to play fairly. Colt McCoy probably wouldn't have mattered. That's a concession of sorts. But it's still impossible to know. He was out opening play.
I wasn't that big on McCoy. I thought Gilbert played mostly admirably. I think it's sad it had to come down to a missed blocking assignment. That's disappointing to me. I don't know what rules apply to defensive formations but it isn't anything goes. I know that because defenses can be penalized sane as offenses. Alabama dropped two back into coverage. But it left a defender uncovered. That's what I was talking about and it's a fair assessment of what happened. The quarterback was blindsided and threw the football into the ground. Intentional grounding. IMO.

 

[CollegeFBFan2021]

You’re an idiot.

I don't reward mediocrity. You should know better than that. I said Brigham Young failed to bring home the bacon in 1984. That's a concession. You are operating under false pretenses that I'm partial to one outcome. Why Alabama's title is suspect is less about Texas and more about Boise St. A team they've yet to schedule. I find it perplexing how you take everything so personally, anyway. If I was a college athlete I'd WANT to play UCF (like Brigham Young actually DID) to prove I'm the superior. At that point it's no longer in dispute. That's the beauty of competition. And I wouldn't want to hear excuses for not caring about playing. Which are always only mentioned afterward. Seems ridiculous to me. It's funny but it's also sad and pathetic that ANY team would resort to that tactic. F.W.I.W. But it also proves MY point of poor sportsmanship. I'll be fair. Supposedly Nick Saban took it on the chin after the Sugar Bowl loss to Utah. But If rather hear him say the better team won than claim he was the reason why.

 

[RTR...USN (ret)]

Whatever. That's because you and I don't agree on a championship I had nothing to do with? I don't remember saying Alabama didn't deserve it. I simply want teams to play fairly. Colt McCoy probably wouldn't have mattered. That's a concession of sorts. But it's still impossible to know. He was out opening play.
I wasn't that big on McCoy. I thought Gilbert played mostly admirably. I think it's sad it had to come down to a missed blocking assignment. That's disappointing to me. I don't know what rules apply to defensive formations but it isn't anything goes. I know that because defenses can be penalized sane as offenses. Alabama dropped two back into coverage. But it left a defender uncovered. That's what I was talking about and it's a fair assessment of what happened. The quarterback was blindsided and threw the football into the ground. Intentional grounding. IMO.

Yep... still an idiot.

 

[RTR...USN (ret)]

I don't reward mediocrity. You should know better than that. I said Brigham Young failed to bring home the bacon in 1984. That's a concession. You are operating under false pretenses that I'm partial to one outcome. Why Alabama's title is suspect is less about Texas and more about Boise St. A team they've yet to schedule. I find it perplexing how you take everything so personally, anyway. If I was a college athlete I'd WANT to play UCF (like Brigham Young actually DID) to prove I'm the superior. At that point it's no longer in dispute. That's the beauty of competition. And I wouldn't want to hear excuses for not caring about playing. Which are always only mentioned afterward. Seems ridiculous to me. It's funny but it's also sad and pathetic that ANY team would resort to that tactic. F.W.I.W. But it also proves MY point of poor sportsmanship. I'll be fair. Supposedly Nick Saban took it on the chin after the Sugar Bowl loss to Utah. But If rather hear him say the better team won than claim he was the reason why.

I was wrong. Calling you an idiot is unfair to idiots. You’re an ignoramus.

 

[LyquidMetal]

I don't think so. You can't just accuse me without evidence. I said it was unlikely Texas wins in spite of everything that went against them. Didn't I just admit that? You get all pissed off if every sentence isn't exactly what you think it ought to be. What I wanted was a fair ruling. Texas didn't cheat. I think that's pretty obvious. Alabama had to resort to what I consider very questionable tactics. I admitted the play (call it a fumble) was a missed blocking assignment. A lineman missed his man. But, Alabama was trying to confuse the offense by putting men on the line.
It seems kind of ticky-tac, but I probably wouldn't have done it. I don't think it was necessary. On replay it looks like a great defensive play until you understand it.
Maybe it isn't cheating. I probably wouldn't know. But McCoy was out, didn't matter. Gilbert played well enough and Texas had a chance until late. The other guy, Liquid Metal admitted it wasn't exactly on the level. It was Alabama's first title and he was rubbing it in by suggesting Texas never recovered. I'd say N. Carolina is still relevant. Mack Brown is still coaching. N. Carolina isn't relevant? I.D.T.S.

//Liquid Metal admitted it wasn't exactly on the level\\ Care to point out where I said this?
Mack brown coaching again after being out of it for a coupla years is relevant to what?

//But, Alabama was trying to confuse the offense by putting men on the line.\\
And? What's the problem?

 

[CollegeFBFan2021]

//Teams don't rise and fall on one game.\\
See the longhorns after the 2009 season and played BAMA for the crystal. They haven't been the same since.

That Championship is about as tainted as tainted gets. I credit Alabama for the win. But it wasn't exactly done without controversy. I credit Mark Ingram for being the pivotal player in the closing minutes but where was he earlier? I think you'll admit it took a lot of fancy footwork to close the door on Texas that year. But it's all good. I think it was Alabama's time to shine. He was their first Heisman. I'll give him his moment. I suppose he mostly deserved it. McCoy was injured. But I think Texas would likely have been beaten anyway. I liked Gilbert better. As a quarterback he was better suited to playing Ketchup. And he nearly got it done!