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Whatever. I'm not the one ducking.
Nobody is ducking anything, but it’s impossible to have a football discussion with someone who has the football IQ of a slug. Ignorance can be excused, that’s just a lack of knowledge. You on the other hand refuse to learn when knowledgeable people try to teach you. That’s stubbornness and foolishness.
 
You are just the one lying, apparently.
O.k what exactly am I lying about? Let's get this out in the air because I'm tired of being blamed for things I know I'm not guilty of. I don't work for the N.C.A.A. I think it was unfortunate the game against Texas ended in what I consider to be a controversial play. I've already stated my position. I didn't make the call of pass incomplete. An official did! I guess if it was me on the sidelines making the wrong call them maybe you would have an excellent point. After all it would have been my ass on the line. But that wasn't me. So it's kinda hard to pin anything on me. The official clearly swung his arms sideways threw some kind of red flag at the football.
 
O.k what exactly am I lying about? Let's get this out in the air because I'm tired of being blamed for things I know I'm not guilty of. I don't work for the N.C.A.A. I think it was unfortunate the game against Texas ended in what I consider to be a controversial play. I've already stated my position. I didn't make the call of pass incomplete. An official did! I guess if it was me on the sidelines making the wrong call them maybe you would have an excellent point. After all it would have been my ass on the line. But that wasn't me. So it's kinda hard to pin anything on me. The official clearly swung his arms sideways threw some kind of red flag at the football.
What he threw, was a marker to indicate the point where the turnover (fumble) occurred. Had it been an incomplete pass there would be no need for the marker as there would be no potential change of possession, and the ball would be marked at the original line of scrimmage with loss of down. No different than any other incomplete pass.
 
O.k what exactly am I lying about? Let's get this out in the air because I'm tired of being blamed for things I know I'm not guilty of. I don't work for the N.C.A.A. I think it was unfortunate the game against Texas ended in what I consider to be a controversial play. I've already stated my position. I didn't make the call of pass incomplete. An official did! I guess if it was me on the sidelines making the wrong call them maybe you would have an excellent point. After all it would have been my ass on the line. But that wasn't me. So it's kinda hard to pin anything on me. The official clearly swung his arms sideways threw some kind of red flag at the football.

The official threw a marker so they would know where the fumble occurred. No, you didn't make the call because NO ONE made the call. Jeebus, how in the hell can you be such a self-described fan and know so little about the game? Seriously? Especially with video proof! It is obvious it was a fumble and it was obvious the official was marking the spot of the turnover.

You need to get that book RTR was telling you about and actually learn something about football before making yourself look foolish like this.
 
The official threw a marker so they would know where the fumble occurred. No, you didn't make the call because NO ONE made the call. Jeebus, how in the hell can you be such a self-described fan and know so little about the game? Seriously? Especially with video proof! It is obvious it was a fumble and it was obvious the official was marking the spot of the turnover.

You need to get that book RTR was telling you about and actually learn something about football before making yourself look foolish like this.
The marker was thrown to mark where the pass landed, behind the line of scrimmage, obviously. Making it necessary to determine whether or not it was intentional grounding. Which it was. Which should have resulted in loss of down but that's not the only problem with the play in question. At that point it needs to be determined whether or not it's recoverable. Admittedly a pass thrown laterally is recoverable. But that means nobody can impede with it. There were all kinds of problems with that play. An IDIOT would actually say it was a fumble. It clearly wasn't a fumble. It was a pass incompletion behind the line of scrimmage. Recoverable but with stipulations. I shouldn't have to explain any of this. Idiots Guide isn't for me to read.
 
The marker was thrown to mark where the pass landed, behind the line of scrimmage, obviously. Making it necessary to determine whether or not it was intentional grounding. Which it was. Which should have resulted in loss of down but that's not the only problem with the play in question. At that point it needs to be determined whether or not it's recoverable. Admittedly a pass thrown laterally is recoverable. But that means nobody can impede with it. There were all kinds of problems with that play. An IDIOT would actually say it was a fumble. It clearly wasn't a fumble. It was a pass incompletion behind the line of scrimmage. Recoverable but with stipulations. I shouldn't have to explain any of this. Idiots Guide isn't for me to read.
Show me one... JUST ONE instance of an official throwing a marker to indicate an incomplete pass ANYWHERE on the field, behind the line of scrimmage, or beyond it. I’ll wait... (hint: you can’t because one doesn’t exist because officials DO NOT throw a Marker on an incomplete pass... NEVER!!!
 
The marker was thrown to mark where the pass landed, behind the line of scrimmage, obviously. Making it necessary to determine whether or not it was intentional grounding. Which it was. Which should have resulted in loss of down but that's not the only problem with the play in question. At that point it needs to be determined whether or not it's recoverable. Admittedly a pass thrown laterally is recoverable. But that means nobody can impede with it. There were all kinds of problems with that play. An IDIOT would actually say it was a fumble. It clearly wasn't a fumble. It was a pass incompletion behind the line of scrimmage. Recoverable but with stipulations. I shouldn't have to explain any of this. Idiots Guide isn't for me to read.

Goddamn, you are dumber than I tell people.

It could NOT have been intentional grounding simply due to Garret not having ANY control of the ball when it left his hand. There was absolutely no doubt it was a fumble caused by the hit. PERIOD. If you actually think that was an incomplete pass then you are a moron.
 
Show me one... JUST ONE instance of an official throwing a marker to indicate an incomplete pass ANYWHERE on the field, behind the line of scrimmage, or beyond it. I’ll wait... (hint: you can’t because one doesn’t exist because officials DO NOT throw a Marker on an incomplete pass... NEVER!!!
What are you asking me? The sidelines judge threw a red marker at the spot where the pass fell behind the line of scrimmage. Why are you asking ME? I was the sidelines judge? I.D.T.S. Furthermore, I wasn't the referee. I'm guessing they conferred. Obviously the play wasn't challenged, but that ALSO is a red marker. Meaning you're completely F.O.F.S. as far as what a red marker is. Maybe You ought to read a book? Finally I've NEVER heard of anyone throwing a beanie at a fumble. Ever. The red marker was meant to spot the location of the inadvertent forward pass.
 
Show me one... JUST ONE instance of an official throwing a marker to indicate an incomplete pass ANYWHERE on the field, behind the line of scrimmage, or beyond it. I’ll wait... (hint: you can’t because one doesn’t exist because officials DO NOT throw a Marker on an incomplete pass... NEVER!!!
I think they do it every time the pass is behind the line of scrimmage. To make a case for where to spot the football. I'm not the official though. They wouldn't do if for a fumble. That's why I know it was an incomplete forward pass attempt. F.W.I.W.
 
I think they do it every time the pass is behind the line of scrimmage. To make a case for where to spot the football. I'm not the official though. They wouldn't do if for a fumble. That's why I know it was an incomplete forward pass attempt. F.W.I.W.

No, moron. They NEVER mark an incomplete pass because it is essentially a non play for the offense. There is literally no reason to mark an incomplete pass.
 
I think they do it every time the pass is behind the line of scrimmage. To make a case for where to spot the football. I'm not the official though. They wouldn't do if for a fumble. That's why I know it was an incomplete forward pass attempt. F.W.I.W.
correct -
i recall that from when i played in middle achool -
the red beanbag
is used to mark the forward pass
behind the L.O.S.
 
No, moron. They NEVER mark an incomplete pass because it is essentially a non play for the offense. There is literally no reason to mark an incomplete pass.
Unless it's intentional grounding in fact bit would be necessary to spot the football in that specific circumstance. Because it's a loss of down plus distance. It was an incomplete forward pass attempt. Behind the line of scrimmage. I believe it was on second down. Loss of down and distance. Third and long. Difficult, but not impossible. Which is why he spotted it. Distance. From where it was thrown INC. Intentional grounding includes distance. By the way THAT official ruled it correctly DOWN. Someone (an asswipe) apparently he overturned a correct call with an incorrect ruling. A whistle would prove it. Listen for a whistle. If it's before it was recovered (at the position it was lost) I win.
 
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correct -
i recall that from when i played in middle achool -
the red beanbag
is used to mark the forward pass
behind the L.O.S.
My point is it was an incomplete pass attempt behind the line of scrimmage recovered by the defense. It wasn't called. I guess every play is open to interpretation. It's impossible at this point to reverse it. But if in FACT it can be proven that Gilbert intentionally threw it away, like I suspect he did, with no wide receiver in the vicinity, that ought to have been ruled intentional grounding. Simple as that. Thanks, friend! It would have resulted in loss of down and distance. I think that makes it second and long from the three yard line. F.W.I.W. Difficult, but not impossible. The kind of thing from which legends are made. Like Elway. Sad in a way we didn't get that ruling. It isn't exactly cheating. The official has the last say on what the correct call is. That's what upset me. The ruling on the play. I guess people would have been upset regardless. I think its second and 30 from the three. Another problem I had a player that recovered it impeded the intended receiver. I'm not sure how that works. But intentional grounding eliminates that problem, entirely. F.W.I.W. The better team likely won I just don't want people bragging about it after the fact Alabama won a national championship. Cool. Let's move on to something else.
 
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Unless it's intentional grounding in fact bit would be necessary to spot the football in that specific circumstance. Because it's a loss of down plus distance. It was an incomplete forward pass attempt. Behind the line of scrimmage. I believe it was on second down. Loss of down and distance. Third and long. Difficult, but not impossible. Which is why he spotted it. Distance. From where it was thrown INC. Intentional grounding includes distance. By the way THAT official ruled it correctly DOWN. Someone (an asswipe) apparently he overturned a correct call with an incorrect ruling. A whistle would prove it. Listen for a whistle. If it's before it was recovered (at the position it was lost) I win.

Goddam you are stupid.

#1 - It was NOT intentional grounding. QB had no control of the ball when it came out of his hand.
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<---- 1This is where he let go of the ball, moron.

#2 - NO - YOU ARE COMPLETELY WRONG.

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The ball is above AND behind his throwing arm.... HE LOST CONTROL of the ball. Moron.

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The other angle showing the ball flying off to the side and behind him. NO FORWARD PASS and certainly not intentional. I WIN.

#3 - None of the other bullshit you posted was even applicable. YOU ARE COMPLETELY WRONG. So shut the fuck up and take your loss like a man, instead of a petulant child who cannot accept facts. At this point you only make yourself look like an IDIOT.

One last angle that shows the ball flying backwards after it was knocked out of Garret's hand.

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Ball is recovered on approximately 2.5 yard line way behind the QB. Line of scrimmage was on the 17th yard line.

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